<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff">Greg, this needs to move to COFF, so I'm BCCing TUHS in my reply. (My error in the original message was that I should have BCC'd everyone but COFF, so replies were directed there. Mei culpa).</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff">However, since I have seen different people on all these lists bemoan the loss of the LCM+L, I hope that by the broader announcement, a number of you will consider the $36/yr membership to help Stephen and his team to be able to keep these systems running and the at least the "labs" port of the old LCM+L mission alive.</font></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 9:56 PM Gregg Levine <<a href="mailto:gregg.drwho8@gmail.com">gregg.drwho8@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello!<br>
Pardon me for asking Clem, but would you mind naming the survivors?</blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font color="#0000ff" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The details are still coming out from Stephen and friends -- I would recommend listening to his presentation and then maybe joining the List Server at SDF by sending a (plain text) email to </font><font color="#38761d" style="" face="monospace"><a href="mailto:majordomo@sdf.org">majordomo@sdf.org</a></font><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" style="color:rgb(0,0,255)"> with the subject and body containing the line: </font><font color="#38761d"><font face="monospace" style="">subscribe </font><font face="monospace">museum-l</font></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font color="#38761d"><font face="monospace"><br></font></font></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> I<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>have an idea what these Toads are, and of course what Multics happened<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>to be, but that's it.<br></blockquote><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff">LCM+L owned a real Honeywell 6180 front panel. The folks in their lab interfaced it to a microcontroller (I think it was an RP3 or 4, but it could be something like a BeagleBone, I never knew). It was running Multics Release 12.8 on a SimH-derived Honeywell 6180 [I'm not sure if those changes ever made it back to OpenSIMH - I have not personally tried it myself]. This system seems to have been moved to SDF's new site. Also, a number of the MIT Multics tapes had been donated to the LCM+L. These have survived, and the SDF has them. I'll not repeat Stephen's report here, but he describes what they have and are doing.</font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff"></font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff">Miss Piggy is the PDP 11/70 that Microsoft purchased and used for their SW original development. It has been running a flavor of Unix Seventh Edition - I do not know what type of updates were added, but I expect the DEC v7m and the V7 addendum to be there. You can log in and try it yourself by </font></span><font color="#38761d" face="monospace">ssh <a href="mailto:menu@sdf.org">menu@sdf.org</a></font><font color="#0000ff">"<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> and picking Miss Piggy in the UNIX submenu. </span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Miss Piggy used to live and be on display at the LCM+L, but Stephen and the SDF were involved in </span><font color="#0000ff">its admin</font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">/operation. Stephen says in his presentation that they are trying to get Miss Piggy back up and running [my >>guess<< is that the "Miss Piggy" instance on the SDF menu is currently running on an OpenSIMH instance while the real hardware is being set up at the new location].</span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff"><br></font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff">In the early 1980s, as DEC started to de-commit to the 36-bit line after they introduced the 32-bit Vax systems, a number of PDP-10 clones appeared on the market. For instance, the System Concepts SC-40 was what Comp-U-Serve primarily switched to. Similarly, many ex-Stanford AI types forked to create the Toad Systems XXL, a KL10 clone. SDF and LCM+L owned several of these two styles of systems and were on display and available for login. Since Twenex.org is live (and has been) and Stephen shows a picture of the SC40, again, I am (again) >>guessing<< that these have all been moved to the new location for SDF.</font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff"><br></font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff">Stephen mentioned in his presentation that they have the LCM-L's Vax7000 but do not yet have the 3-phase power in their computer room. He suggested that it is one of the most popular machines in the SDF menu, and they intend to make it live shortly.</font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff"><br></font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff">It is unclear what became of some of the other items. It was pointed out that running a CDC6500 is extremely expensive to operate from a power standpoint, so they offer an NOS login using the DTCyber simulator. He never mentioned what became of the former Purdue machine that the LCM owned and had restored.</font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff"><br></font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff">I am interested in knowing what happened to the two PDP-7s. I know that at least one was privately owned, but was being restored and displayed at the LCM+L. It was one of these systems that Unix V0 was resurrected and ran for the UNIX 50th Anniversary Party that the LCM+L hosted. The LCM+L had some interesting peripherals. For instance, the console for Miss Piggy was a somewhat rare ASR37 [which is Upper/Lower case and the "native" terminal for Research Unix]. I hope they have it also. The LCM+L had </font></span><font color="#0000ff">a number of different types of tape transports for recovering old data.<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Stephen mentioned that they have<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> some of these but did not elaborate. </span></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Clem</span></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div></div></div>