[TUHS] The Web Service on Minnie is 30 Years Old Today
James Johnston
audioskeptic at gmail.com
Tue Feb 20 07:45:22 AEST 2024
Well done. Has the hardware evolved? I presume so, but I do remember one
legacy machine from the early 1980's at BTL (icarus, an 11/23), that when
it shut down forever in 1996, was a microvax, with its bus connected to a
standard PDP11 bus, that connected to a Q-bus, and the original discs were
still on line. It's uptime was never more than 350+ days, though, because
of once a year UPS testing. In its last incarnation, it did nothing but
mail routing, and that barely. I don't think anything changed on it in the
last 10 years, not even the system.
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 1:15 PM Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 4:02 PM Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 1:58 PM Rich Salz <rich.salz at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> I think this makes minnie one of the longest running web services
>>>> still in existence :-)
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>>> Congrats. In a ship of Theseus sense.:)
>>>
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>> *We all sail in the Unix ship of Theseus..*. Every system today had code
>> from Unix directly, or from another ship that was built of the builts of
>> one that was split between a couple of groups. Yes, even Linux: lots of
>> networking userland came from BSD, for example, and while lots have been
>> rewritten, that's kinda the point of the ship of Theseus... :)
>>
> +1
> My observation is that Linux is just the current (and most
> successful) implementation of ideas that Doug, Ken, Rudd, Dennis, *et al.*
> started and others have contributed to over the years. And like the
> thought experiment described, there is no reason why the ship can not be
> changed. It still sails the same way to the same places.
>
>
> ᐧ
>
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James D. (jj) Johnston
Chief Scientist, Immersion Networks
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