<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 3, 2023, 6:44 PM Clem Cole <<a href="mailto:clemc@ccc.com">clemc@ccc.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><a href="http://wiki.c2.com/?TecoEditor" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://wiki.c2.com/?TecoEditor</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cantrell’s teco was pretty fast and used a lot less resources than any of the Unix EMACS invocations. Gosling / CMU EMACS showed up in 81 on the Vax and is where mocklisp came from. Zimmerman EMACS may have been earlier at MIT but Steve sold it to CCA so it was not nearly as widespread. Noel may know more. We got a license from CCA in ‘84 and shipped it on the Masscomp systems. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Rms did like a number things gosling did and start to rewrite it. (The defaults were different from ITS was one of his issues). He released his version around 85. FWIW: There is still some bad blood wrt to that whole path best I can tell. </div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">RMS started with Gosling's emacs, did a half-hearted rewrite by evolving that code and claimed it all as his. Gosling was understandably upset by this and made him stop. The release notes from the early teens of releases document some of the drama. The last thing was the screen code and was still a sticking point even after the rewrite... a lot happened on mailing lists too, but I've not found those archives.. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The ill will was well earned...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Warner</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">I think there were a couple of others. </div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 8:04 PM Will Senn <<a href="mailto:will.senn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">will.senn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">As a longtime user and
lover of ed/ex/vi, I don't know much about emacs, but lately I've
been using it more (as it seems like any self-respecting lisper,
has to at least have a passing acquaintance with it). I recently
went off and got MACLISP running in ITS. As part of that
exploration, I used EMACS, but not just any old emacs, emacs in
it's first incarnation as a set of TECO macros. To me, it just
seemed like EMACS. I won't bore you with the details - imagine
lots of control and escape sequences, many of which are the same
today as then. This was late 70's stuff.<br>
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My question for the group is - when did emacs arrive in unix and
was it a full fledged text editor when it came or was it sitting
on top of some other subssystem in unix? Was TECO ever on unix?</font></div><div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br>
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Will<br>
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