<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, May 25, 2024 at 12:13 PM G. Branden Robinson <<a href="mailto:g.branden.robinson@gmail.com">g.branden.robinson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">That does complicate my simplistic story.  Ing70 was, then, as you noted<br>
in a previous mail, an 11/70, but it _wasn't_ running Version 7 Unix,<br>
but rather something with various bits of BSD (also in active<br>
development, I reckon).<br></blockquote><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Mumble -- the kernel and 90% of </span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">the userspace on Ing70 was V7 -- it was very similar to Teklabs which I ran.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">It had all of 2BSD on it, but the kernel work that we think of as 'BSD" was 3.0BSD and later 4.0BSD and that was 100% on the Vax.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The point is it was a 16 bits system, the Johnson C compiler with some fixes from the greater USENIX community including UCB.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">There was >>no port<< needed.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">This was its native tongue.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">It was >>included<< in later BSD released which is how people came to know it because 4.XBSD was became much more widely used than V7+2BSD.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The 2.9 work of Keith at al, started because the UCB Math Dept could not afford a VAX.   DEC had released the  v7m code to support overlays, so slowly</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">changed from the VAX made it back into the V7 based kernel - which took a new life.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Clem</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div></div><div hspace="streak-pt-mark" style="max-height:1px"><img alt="" style="width:0px;max-height:0px;overflow:hidden" src="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aY2xlbWNAY2NjLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=dae645ed-ad71-4764-a6ee-2ad618ba873c"><font color="#ffffff" size="1">ᐧ</font></div>