<div dir="ltr">somewhere in this zillion-thread discussion there was a comment about Plan 9 and its multi-headed community. While that comment was probably accurate a few years back, the last two years of Plan 9 workshops saw a lot of us, representing many different Plan 9 code bases, get together and converge on where we want to go. Once you meet someone in person, and go get a cheesesteak together, arguments seem to resolve.<div><br></div><div>I would say, don't take too many impressions from 9fans, a famously argumentative list. The folks who write Plan 9 code are in broad agreement about moving forward and leaving hatchets buried. Progress is never as rapid as we all would like, but I'm optimistic. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 7:54 AM Larry McVoy <<a href="mailto:lm@mcvoy.com">lm@mcvoy.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 08:44:14AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:<br>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2024, 7:28???AM Larry McVoy <<a href="mailto:lm@mcvoy.com" target="_blank">lm@mcvoy.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 07:46:15PM -0500, Nevin Liber wrote:<br>
> > > But I'll bite. There was the claim by Larry McVoy that "Writing<br>
> > Makefiles<br>
> > > isn't that hard".<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Please show these beautiful makefiles for a non-toy non-trivial product<br>
> ><br>
> > Works on *BSD, MacOS, Windows, Linux on a bunch of different architectures,<br>
> > Solaris, HPUX, AIX, IRIX, Tru64, etc.<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> The posted Makefile is no a strictly conforming POSIX Makefile, but uses<br>
> gmake extensions extensively... And eyes of the beholder may vary...<br>
<br>
Yeah, I lost that battle. I prefer, and carry around the sources to, a<br>
make from Unix. It's simple and does what I need. But my guys convinced<br>
me there was enough value in gmake that we used it. I tried to keep<br>
the craziness to a minimum. And I think I succeeded, I can fix bugs in<br>
that Makefile.<br>
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