<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Boy, I hate people rewriting history. As someone who lived it, it is just not the case. I do not doubt that rms will try to take credit, but I think a few of us there should send notes to Open Group. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">FYI: Jim Issak was a marketing guy from Charles River Data Systems, which is abbreviated C-R-D-S, and the firm always spelled out the letters. But the rest of us pronounced it CRuDS—adding an "u" and pronouncing it—which I was referred to in my first email.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">When the P1003 committee was established, Jim was aware of the naming issue, particularly after the CRDS experience. There was a great argument in one of the early meetings about whether it should just be a "<i>Portable Operating System</i>" as opposed to a "<i>Portable Operating System Interface</i>."<span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> The concern was that we were starting with the System Call API or interface [which we had inherited from /usr/group) but planned from the beginning (even in /usr/group days) to be more than the system call API. As I said, we started with the System API as that would be hard enough to find common ground -- remember DEC, in particular, was pushing for VMS-like stuff (case folding in file names). As you can see, we agree to use an add interface.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hal's comment about it being called IEEEIX is strange. I do not remember it ever being called that, and as an editor, I can say that I have no memories of using that term. Could someone at IEEE in NYC try to call it the same? I did not hear it or remember any document that used it, so I do not know what he is talking about. It was not something I generated, and to have done that would have taken edits.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I wonder if Open Group has the full SCCS files. I kept it in SCCS originally and generated some of the documentation Jim needed for IEEE with SCCS commands.</div><div hspace="streak-pt-mark" style="max-height:1px"><img alt="" style="width:0px;max-height:0px;overflow:hidden" src="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aY2xlbWNAY2NjLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=6cb0c6bf-6a29-4a72-910e-5ea5066b6a19"><font color="#ffffff" size="1">ᐧ</font></div><div hspace="streak-pt-mark" style="max-height:1px"><img alt="" style="width:0px;max-height:0px;overflow:hidden" src="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aY2xlbWNAY2NjLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=c342402b-b350-4260-91e1-956fbf7f8677"><font color="#ffffff" size="1">ᐧ</font></div></div><div hspace="streak-pt-mark" style="max-height:1px"><img alt="" style="width:0px;max-height:0px;overflow:hidden" src="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aY2xlbWNAY2NjLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=8bac26de-b0de-420e-9c54-25a3ace636d8"><font color="#ffffff" size="1">ᐧ</font></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 10:29 AM Andy Kosela <<a href="mailto:akosela@andykosela.com" target="_blank">akosela@andykosela.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br><br>On Thursday, June 27, 2024, Chet Ramey via TUHS <<a href="mailto:tuhs@tuhs.org" target="_blank">tuhs@tuhs.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 6/26/24 8:44 PM, Clem Cole wrote:<br>
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rms had nothing to do with the name posix. I have no idea where that comment came from.<br>
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<a href="http://www.opengroup.org/austin/papers/posix_faq.html" target="_blank">http://www.opengroup.org/austin/papers/posix_faq.html</a><br>
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</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Richard confirms it on his own website, too.</div><div><br></div><div> <a href="https://www.stallman.org/articles/posix.html" target="_blank">https://www.stallman.org/articles/posix.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>--Andy</div>
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