<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Google ran on Perforce in the early days, then on an internal reimplementation that could scale better (long story). I believe that's still the case, as git continues to be desired by the users but unworkable as the core repo at the required scale. Clever hackery allows git to feel like it's being used, but it's all above what was at least at one time Perforce.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">My info could well be out of date, though.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">-rob</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 15, 2024 at 8:44 PM G. Branden Robinson <<a href="mailto:g.branden.robinson@gmail.com">g.branden.robinson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">At 2024-12-15T07:22:29+0000, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:<br>
> Theodore Ts'o wrote:<br>
> > But yet, there's no question that Multics was a commercial failure<br>
> <br>
> By which metric? Honest question. Multics seems to have been in<br>
> business around 1975-2000, but I don't know if it was in the read or<br>
> in the black.<br>
<br>
I note that that's longer than MS-DOS was a commercial product.<br>
<br>
People seem mighty quick to use words like "irrelevant" or "failure" as<br>
a substitute for reasoned argument.<br>
<br>
Maybe I would, in fact, hate using Multics. But I can't forget that<br>
well after Unix had fledged, its developers at CSRC found it necessary<br>
and/or desirable to borrow back a Multics concept: they named it mmap().<br>
<br>
Not having been concieved as desirable from the start, it was grafted<br>
on, with negative consequences. The archives of this list feature<br>
multiple war stories from Larry McVoy about how, as I recollect,<br>
unifying the buffer cache was a dragon that bedeviled every version of<br>
Unix until SunOS 4 finally slayed it. (Have I got that right?)<br>
<br>
And promptly got chucked overboard for a System V kernel because that's<br>
how glorious the software industry is.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Branden<br>
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