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<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div dir="auto">COFF time for this as well.<br>Cheers, Warren </div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">On 28 May 2025 12:23:23 pm AEST, Luther Johnson <luther.johnson@makerlisp.com> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<p>and coffee makers, microwave ovens, automobile engine
controllers, there's not much in the embedded world that is not
ARM these days, of course RISC V wants to make zero-licensing cost
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<p>network switches, etc.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/27/2025 07:18 PM, Luther
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<p>and wireless devices, hot spots ... <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/27/2025 07:16 PM, Luther
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<p>and thumb (USB) drives, and power banks, and probably
anything you can connect via USB, like keyboards<br>
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<p>There are tiny ARM processors in SD cards.</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/27/2025 03:42 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au">sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au</a>
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<div>On 28 May 2025, at 00:52, Stuff Received <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stuff@riddermarkfarm.ca"><stuff@riddermarkfarm.ca></a>
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forgets about embedded systems. When I was still
noodling, there were several RTOSes that were
POSIX-certified (QNX and VxWorks, amongst others).
Of course, these ran on the higher end 32-bit
MCUs, of which dozens exist in modern cars. That
medical stuff probably conforms to IEC 62304,
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<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>anyone
on list know where all the ARM ‘CPUs’ (cores or
multi-core chips?) get used?</div>
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<div>ARM, as the licenser, declared it licensed 250B
“CPUs” in 2024.</div>
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<div>We know 1-2B go into smartphones, perhaps another
250M into PC-like devices (250M is approx PC market)</div>
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<div>Where do the rest go?</div>
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<div>I’ve read some HDD’s use ARM processors, so a few
billion there perhaps.</div>
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