Diffs for the FAQ posting
Conor P. Cahill
cpcahil at virtech.uucp
Mon Feb 4 02:38:33 AEST 1991
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Welcome to comp.unix.sysv386 (AKA Frequently Asked Questions)
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Welcome to the comp.unix.sysv386 newsgroup. This newsgroup (actually the
former comp.unix.i386 newsgroup which was renamed to this group) was founded
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Welcome to comp.unix.sysv386 (AKA Frequently Asked Questions)
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Organization: Virtual Technologies Inc, Sterling VA.
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Welcome to the comp.unix.sysv386 newsgroup. This newsgroup (actually the
former comp.unix.i386 newsgroup which was renamed to this group) was founded
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posting, the Frequently Asked Questions posting in comp.unix.questions,
and finally the various postings in news.announce.newusers.
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This article includes answers to:
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posting, the Frequently Asked Questions posting in comp.unix.questions,
and finally the various postings in news.announce.newusers.
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This article includes answers to:
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This group was formed to discuss the various implementations of UNIX
on the Intel 386 architecture. This includes SCO Unix, 386/ix,
ISC UNIX, ESIX, Dell, Bell Tech (now Intel) Unix, Microport Unix,
! and, of course, AT&T and any others that I have forgotten.
Since no vendor intends to make a 486 specific version of their OS,
the use of the various UNIX products on the i486 will also be
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This group was formed to discuss the various implementations of UNIX
on the Intel 386 architecture. This includes SCO Unix, 386/ix,
ISC UNIX, ESIX, Dell, Bell Tech (now Intel) Unix, Microport Unix,
! UHC Unix and, of course, AT&T and any others that I have forgotten.
Since no vendor intends to make a 486 specific version of their OS,
the use of the various UNIX products on the i486 will also be
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specific code in their applications (and, IMHO it was a real stupid
decision on their part).
3. Is there a binary BSD port for the 386 available anywhere?
! No. However, System V Release 4.0 will have many BSDisms including
! symbolic links, job control, BSD file system, sockets (implemented
! on top of streams). It will also contain the SunOS memory mapped
! files, the Korn shell, and many other nifty things.
! These are now starting to ship (usually beta releases) to end-users
! by Intel, Microport, and UnixHOUSE. I haven't seen these releases,
! nor heard any reports from those that have recieved them.
One thing that should be noted here is that the System V R4 release
! has MAJOR changes over the R3 releases and probably won't be stable
! for a while. If you want a stable system, I would suggest that you
! continue to use a R3 until the second release of R4 systems (6-9 mos
! or so).
BSD 4.4 will support the 386 architecture as a base system. This
means that vendors will have a base BSD system that could be used
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specific code in their applications (and, IMHO it was a real stupid
decision on their part).
+ However, System V Release 4 (SVR4) binaries will not run on System V
+ Release * (where * is less than 4.0) systems.
3. Is there a binary BSD port for the 386 available anywhere?
! No. However, SVR4 has many BSDisms including symbolic links, job
! control, BSD file system, sockets (implemented on top of streams).
! It will also contain the SunOS memory mapped files, the Korn shell,
! and many other nifty things.
! SVR4 is currently shipping from Microport, UHC, and DELL. Intell
! had been shipping SVR4, but has handed its UNIX marketing efforts
! over to ISC. ISC has announced that it will begin shipping SVR4
! in April. SCO has no plans to ship a SVR4 product, but "will include
! SVR4 features in its SVR3.2 product."
One thing that should be noted here is that the System V R4 release
! has MAJOR changes over the R3 releases and won't be stable for a while.
! If you want a stable system, I would suggest that you continue to use
! SVR3.2 until SVR4 stablizes (another 6mos to a year).
BSD 4.4 will support the 386 architecture as a base system. This
means that vendors will have a base BSD system that could be used
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At least one company (Mt Xinu) has announced that they will support
(and distribute) the MACH source code (assuming you have the
! appropriate license) but there have been no announcements about
! commercial binary distributions.
4. What hardware works with brand X Unix and/or X11
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At least one company (Mt Xinu) has announced that they will support
(and distribute) the MACH source code (assuming you have the
! appropriate license) AND has announced the availability of a binary
! product based upon the same. Support for various PC devices is
! somewhat limited.
4. What hardware works with brand X Unix and/or X11
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8. Is there a port of X11 R3/4 available for whatever?
X11R3 is available from all of the 386 UNIX distributors.
- There are no releases fully based upon X11R4 yet.
9. What are good intelligent multi-port serial card solutions?
This is yet another religous issue. The following cards are
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8. Is there a port of X11 R3/4 available for whatever?
X11R3 is available from all of the 386 UNIX distributors.
+ Thomas Roell has ported X11R4 to the 80386 architecture and has
+ posted patches to enable it to run with a variety of VGA based
+ boards. All you need is the X11R4 distribution from MIT, Roell's
+ patches and voila you get X11R4. For sources to the X11R4 sources
+ you can see the FAQ posting in comp.windows.x.
+
+ I have heard very good reports on the performance of this server
+ from the many people that have used it, so if you need X or
+ want X11R4, you should check this out.
+
+ This stuff is available from the following sites:
+
+ ftp: flop.informatik.tu-muenchen.de in /pub/i386/X11R4
+
+ uucp: speed: TB+/PEP phone: 512-346-2339
+ system: bigtex
+ login: nuucp (no password)
+ files: /usr3/X11r4/i386.server/README
+ /usr3/X11r4/i386.server/X386.man
+ /usr3/X11r4/i386.server/Xserver.tar.Z
+
+ uucp: system: zok (connection info available in the
+ FAQ posting to comp.windows.x)
+
9. What are good intelligent multi-port serial card solutions?
This is yet another religous issue. The following cards are
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have no experience/pricing info on these cards.
Equinox
! Equinox has two serial port solutions: the Megaport 12, and
! Megaport 24. Each board is reputed to be capable of running
! all ports at full 38400 simultaneously. The 24 port cards
! runs around $1200. Installation is a snap, no jumpers to
set, no interrupts required for the board. The board
can be installed to use memory between 640K and 1 MB for
communications between the board and the system.
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have no experience/pricing info on these cards.
Equinox
! Equinox has several serial port solutions including 12, 24
! and 96 ports in a single slot. Each board is reputed to be
! capable of running ALL ports at full speed (38400 baud)
! simultaneously with no loss of data. The 24 port card runs
! around $1200. Installation is a snap, no jumpers to
set, no interrupts required for the board. The board
can be installed to use memory between 640K and 1 MB for
communications between the board and the system.
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The board runs fine. Input/output port sharing is supported.
Maxpeed
! Maxpeed has an 8 port card that will run any of the ports
! at speeds up to 38.4K. The card retails for 795, but is
usually available at $500 to $550. I lost data when
receiving data as speeds > 9600 baud. VPIX did not
run correctly on my wyse 60's. I contacted customer
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The board runs fine. Input/output port sharing is supported.
Maxpeed
! Maxpeed has 8 and 16 port cards that will run any of the ports
! at speeds up to 38.4K. The 8 port card retails for 795, but is
usually available at $500 to $550. I lost data when
receiving data as speeds > 9600 baud. VPIX did not
run correctly on my wyse 60's. I contacted customer
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unacceptable for systems that will have moderate to large database
files and will therefore need to be increased.
+ This solution also applies to the various SVR4 products.
+
1. If your desired limit is > 12288(6MB):
Edit /etc/conf/cf.d/mtune to change the following line:
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4. Rebuild the kernel and reboot.
13. How do you set up a port for both dial-in and dial-out access?
+
There are two ways to do this. Most intelligent boards provide
two devices for every port: one with and one without modem
controls. The modem control ports are used for getty, while
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18. Why do I run out of inodes on some filesystems when I know I don't
have that many files?
! It's a known bug. Corrected in AT&T's 3.2.1 etc..., ISC 2.2,
! and in some binary patches, previously posted here, for
! Microport 3.0e and ISC 2.0 (and Microport SV/AT). If you
! have it, write hate mail to your supplier's expensive QA
department... It has been known for years.
19. What is the minimum hardware for running Unix on a 386?
A 386SX, 4 MB RAM, 40MB Disk, monochrome adaptor and monitor.
! You can have this for little over $1000 mail order nowadays.
Using RLL is advisable, and does not cost you more.
With Xenix, you can live with as little as 2MB.
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18. Why do I run out of inodes on some filesystems when I know I don't
have that many files?
! It's a known bug that is most often manifested by running
! bnews for news processing (Cnews doesn't seem to cause the
! problem - we have been running Cnews for over a year with a
! full newsfeed and have never seen the problem). Binary patches
! have been posted to this group for several of the SVR3 OSs.
!
! It is not know if the problem still exists in the SVR4 products.
!
! If you have it, write hate mail to your supplier's expensive QA
department... It has been known for years.
19. What is the minimum hardware for running Unix on a 386?
A 386SX, 4 MB RAM, 40MB Disk, monochrome adaptor and monitor.
! You can have this for less than $1000 mail order nowadays.
Using RLL is advisable, and does not cost you more.
With Xenix, you can live with as little as 2MB.
--
Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc.
uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling, VA 22170
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