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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">You found me. J I regret that I don’t have any authority to speak for Rand on releasability of things done for them,
and I had no role in creating the actual code. I would hope they would view this as beneficial historical work, but you will need to contact Rand, public affairs office or some such.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Carl Sunshine<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Principal Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Helv"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helv",sans-serif;color:black">carl.sunshine@aero.org<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Helv"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helv",sans-serif;color:black">carl.a.sunshine.ctr@mail.smil.mil</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_____replyseparator"></a><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Alex McKenzie [mailto:amckenzie3@yahoo.com] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 13, 2017 9:42 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Carl A Sunshine <carl.a.sunshine@aero.org><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Fw: [ih] RAND Unix Port code<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Noel Chiappa <<a href="mailto:jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu">jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:internet-history@postel.org">
internet-history@postel.org</a> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:wkt@tuhs.org">wkt@tuhs.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu">jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 13, 2017 12:09 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [ih] RAND Unix Port code</span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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I'm not sure if this news has spread widely yet, but I have just recovered a<br>
complete copy of the filesystem for the MIT-CSR Unix (the V6 Unix system at<br>
MIT-LCS on which most of the early TCP/IP work at MIT was done). I have found<br>
many treasures therein, including several early TCP/IP's. (More on this<br>
below.)<br>
<br>
I'm trying to make them all accessible through Unix source archives:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl" target="_blank">http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl</a><br>
<br>
for public access. To do so, I need to make sure they are all OK to release<br>
publicly. (Back in the day, they were not, but that was because the underlying<br>
UNIX code was protected.)<br>
<br>
One of them is the BBN TCP/IP done by Mike Wingfield. It uses the RAND Port<br>
code, and I'm trying to work out who can tell me, or OK, the release of that<br>
code.<br>
<br>
Alas, Steven Zucker, the person who wrote the RAND report detailing the<br>
implementation of ports (and likely the actual author of the code) is no<br>
longer with us. Carl Sunshine wrote the overview document, but I don't know<br>
how to reach him - does anyone here? Does anyone else have any information<br>
on whether or not we can make this code public? Thanks!<br>
<br>
<br>
We do not, alas, have the source for the first BBN Unix TCP/IP - the one done<br>
by Jack Havery as, I am under the impression, a port of Jim Mathis' TIU code.<br>
<br>
We do, however, have the complete TIU source, and I hope to make that<br>
available too. Same question(s) about that: does anyone know how to reach Jim,<br>
or know anything about the releaseability of that code? (I seem to recall it<br>
was done under contract to DARPA, and so probably was open, but not all code<br>
written under a contract with the USG is necessarily public.)<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
Noel<br>
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