On Tue, Nov 8, 2022, 1:57 PM Marc Donner <marc.donner@gmail.com> wrote:
My buds in the SRE community confirm that Twitter laid off the entire SRE team, since of course they didn't write enough code.  Good luck with keeping the system up.

It's ok. I'm sure users can just fax problem reports to Elon.

To tie this back to TUHS a little bit...when did being a "sysadmin" become a thing unto itself? And is it just me, or has that largely been superceded by SRE (which I think of as what one used to, perhaps, call a "system programmer") and DevOps, which feels like a more traditional Unix-y kind of thing?

        - Dan C.




On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:52 PM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:


On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 2:34 PM Charles H Sauer (he/him) <sauer@technologists.com> wrote:
On 10/11/2022 3:14 PM, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> On 11 Oct 2022 13:10 -0700, from lm@mcvoy.com (Larry McVoy):
>>> Isn't it relatively well established, though, that IBM culture at
>>> least for a very long time put heavy emphasis on counting lines of
>>> source code, and that more SLOC was considered to be better?
>>
>> That's just stupid.
>
> You're getting no argument from me there.
>

It was likely true that some parts of IBM put heavy emphasis on LOC, but
as Marc points out, that wasn't true in Research. I don't remember heavy
LOC emphasis in AIX groups, and I suspect even in Boca (OS/2) there was
not "heavy" emphasis.

Speaking of "just stupid"

Word on the street is that Elon Musk stack ranked the engineers by lines of code
over the last year (source: https://ma.nu/blog/bye-twitter) and layed off the bottom
performers in terms of LoC...

Not 100% sure this is legit, since some tweets about it have been deleted.

Warners