Speaking of PIC: What’s the worst example of PIC abuse you know of? The one that immediately comes to mind is an example I saw at Tolerant (an 80’s era multi-processor
computer company).


The board diagrams, e.g the outline diagram of the printed circuit card with the outlines of each IC and it’s label, AND the artwork of the board edge connectors and switches (DB25, pushbuttone, etc).
It looked like it was created by an artist in Ink. But of course, it was done in PIC!


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On Mar 7, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:

I became troff buddies with him.  I love troff and all the other tools,
pic especially because you can read pic code and see the picture in your
head.  Richard and I shared that love for pic.  He and I talked quite a
bit about how to do stuff in troff.  Troff buddies is the best way to
describe what we had, we bonded over that but I wasn't close to him
otherwise.  Still miss him and our troff exchanges, he was a great
guy, those books were the best in their day.

He was a lot like Dennis, willing to talk to you and educate you if you
had a clue.

On Sun, Mar 07, 2021 at 07:23:55PM -0700, Adam Thornton wrote:
The Richard Stevens books were huge here.  I did not know him well but
emailed with him a few times in the year before he died.  I never met him
in person but he was very kind to a much younger and more ignorant me.

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 7:21 PM wojciech@koszek.com <wojciech@koszek.com>
wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm Wojciech Adam Koszek and I'm a new member here. After a short stint
with Red Hat 6.0 and Slackware Linux around 2000-2001 (I think it was
Slackware 7.0 or 7.1) my journey with UNIX started with FreeBSD 4.5. I fell
in love with BSD and through Warner Losh, Robert Watson, and folks from a
Polish UNIX scene, I became hooked. I ended up working with FreeBSD for the
following 15 years or so.

Anyway: the volume of the UNIX literature back then in Poland was scarce,
yet through a small bookstore and a friendly salesman I got myself a "UNIX
Network Programming Volume 1" at a huge discount, and read it back-to-back.

Looking back, his books had a huge impact on my life (I had all his books,
and read everything line by line, with a slight exception of TCP/IP
illustrated vol 2, which I used as a reference), and while Stevens's
website sheds some light on what he did, I often wonder what is the story
behind how his books came to be. It doesn't help he appeared a very private
person--never have I seen a photo of him anywhere.

What was the reception of his books in the US?

Did you know him? Do you know any more details about what he did after
1990?

Thanks and take care,

Wojciech Adam Koszek

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