On 3/29/21, arnold(a)skeeve.com <arnold(a)skeeve.com> wrote: Thanks. It is a nice editor, but it actually resembles ex(1) when using visual mode. Maybe I am missing something but it appears you cannot actually use cursor keys to visually edit lines in the upper area of the screen in se -- you can only edit cmd line. As far as I know there is no editor in the Unix land which gives you the ability to work in the ed(1) line oriented mode BUT also allowing to freely move cursor keys in all directions. I gave example of the Atari editor[1] which does exactly that. I believe to accomplish it on Unix one would need to hack ed(1) and add ncurses(3) cursor positioning. --Andy [1] https://youtu.be/c9o92l5gupI