On Dec 26, 2007, at 6:08 PM, Larry McVoy wrote: What is the total size and estimated monthly bandwidth of the archive? I may be able to host a mirror on my managed server. -Seth

It's not me, it's all of you. OSL has a gigabit link to the net if I recall correctly. But I don't think TUHS needs that. There are only so many of us old farts. But fast is nice. I do think that there is a _huge_ amount of value in the TUHS archive. I think that anyone I hire who has not wandered through there, should. Anyhoo, I'm pinging the OSL guys, I suspect that they will be cool about hosting a mirror, they have been way cool in the past. For that matter, they'd host www.tuhs.org but I suspect Warren may not be cool with that. Dunno. I can arrange introductions, they are a cool group, this is a cool group, who knows? I'm off to put the chickens to bed (yeah, I live in that sort of place. My net connection is a 100KB/sec but http://bitmover.com/lm/house makes it worth it, great to live in the country with the bobcats, coyotes, boar, mountain lions, and still commute to silicon valley). I'll report back as soon as I know more. Happy holidays to everyone and for the record, I'm one of those guys that have learned a huge amount from the old school unix and apply it to this day. One of my machines is named slovax because that was the 11/750 at Wisconsin that held the BSD source and I had an account. Still remember the day I read popen() source and realized you code fork in libc - that was an eye-opener. I think it still has a lot of value and appreciate Warren and all of you for caring and passing on the knowledge. Cheers all, --lm On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 10:17:55PM -0500, Jim Capp wrote: -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com

As for archive stats, my copy is some 11GB (but I have expanded a number of subtrees and added a few things). It changes very little if any at all usually, meaning that monthly traffic for syncing is negligible. BTW, I'm supposed to be hooked on a 2Gbps pipe, but since we mirror many huge biological databases (in the order of TB) and they may change by day significantly, and other sites use us as a hub to mirror their copy of said dbs in turn, out bandwidth may vary depending on day and time of day (if you hit us during the mirroring phase of the day it may be quite slow). We're also on the Grid running large jobs with large data moves... Oh well. Just give it a try. BTW, on our site you'll also find an 'os' directory with a large collection of additional UNIX/UNIX-like/other systems and sources (ftp://ftp.es.embnet.org/pub/misc/os/ or rsync://ftp.es.embnet.org/tuhs/ ). j On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:14:42 +0100 Wilko Bulte <wb(a)freebie.xs4all.nl> wrote: -- These opinions are mine and only mine. Hey man, I saw them first! José R. Valverde De nada sirve la Inteligencia Artificial cuando falta la Natural

In message: <20080113034117.GN60332(a)dereel.lemis.com> "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog(a)FreeBSD.org> writes: : On Thursday, 27 December 2007 at 11:14:42 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: : > Quoting Larry McVoy, who wrote on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 07:39:22PM -0800 .. : >> It's not me, it's all of you. OSL has a gigabit link to the net if I : >> recall correctly. But I don't think TUHS needs that. There are only : >> so many of us old farts. But fast is nice. : >> : >> I do think that there is a _huge_ amount of value in the TUHS archive. : >> I think that anyone I hire who has not wandered through there, should. : >> : >> Anyhoo, I'm pinging the OSL guys, I suspect that they will be cool about : >> hosting a mirror, they have been way cool in the past. For that matter, : >> they'd host www.tuhs.org but I suspect Warren may not be cool with that. : >> Dunno. I can arrange introductions, they are a cool group, this is a : >> cool group, who knows? : > : > Hm.. if all else fails we could check if ftp.freebsd.org would be available : > to mirror. Grog, Warner, what do you think? : : (sorry for the slow response) I seem to have lost some messages, so : I'm not longer sure what Larry's suggesting to mirror. Also it's not : as if I have much to say for the FreeBSD project any more, though I'm : surprised imp didn't say anything. Isn't this a matter for the : FreeBSD core team and whoever is running ftp.freebsd.org at the : moment? I certainly don't see any obvious reason why not. Before I could say something, it sounded like Larry had the mirrors he needed. Warner