28 Sep
2018
28 Sep
'18
11:04 p.m.
All, I just got an e-mail from a TUHS member who would like to lay their
hands on a copy of the original Unix SOSP paper:
Anyway, I am trying to get my hands on the original 1972/73 paper on The
UNIX TIME-SHARING SYSTEM that was published at the SOSP ‘73 Proceedings
of the fourth ACM symposium on operating system principles.
I do have the 1974 and 1978 reprint papers. But, I really want the
1972/73 original. I see it in the ACM digital library, but the full
text PDF prints only the abstract.
Does anybody have a scan of the original SOSP paper?
I'd also like a copy of the 1974 reprint in CACM.
Thanks, Warren
28 Sep
28 Sep
11:20 p.m.
Warren Toomey <wkt(a)tuhs.org> asks on Sat, 29 Sep 2018 09:04:44 +1000 for
a copy of the original 1972/73 paper on The UNIX TIME-SHARING SYSTEM
that was published at the SOSP bProceedings of the fourth ACM
symposium on operating system principles.
The URL in this entry from unix.bib works for me:
@InProceedings{Ritchie:1973:UTSa,
author = "Dennis M. Ritchie and Ken Thompson",
editor = "{ACM}",
booktitle = "Fourth ACM Symposium on Operating Systems Principles,
IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights,
New York, October 15-17, 1973",
title = "The {UNIX} time-sharing system",
publisher = pub-ACM,
address = pub-ACM:adr,
pages = "??--??",
year = "1973",
bibdate = "Thu Feb 23 07:01:17 2017",
bibsource = "http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/unix.bib",
URL = "https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/cacm.html",
acknowledgement = ack-nhfb,
remark = "This electronic edition of this paper is a reprint of
the version appearing in The Bell System Technical
Journal 57 no. 6, part 2 (July--August 1978). In turn,
that was a revised version of an article that appeared
in Communications of the ACM, 17, No. 7 (July 1974),
pp. 365--375. That article was a revised version of a
paper presented at the Fourth ACM Symposium on
Operating Systems Principles, IBM Thomas J. Watson
Research Center, Yorktown Heights, New York, October
15--17, 1973. Most of the differences between versions
occur between the C. ACM version and the BSTJ printing;
we incorporated updated numbers and material on
portability.",
}
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11:55 p.m.
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 05:20:53PM -0600, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote:
Warren Toomey <wkt(a)tuhs.org> asks on Sat, 29 Sep
2018 09:04:44 +1000 for
a copy of the original 1972/73 paper on The UNIX TIME-SHARING SYSTEM
that was published at the SOSP Proceedings of the fourth ACM
symposium on operating system principles.
The URL in this entry from unix.bib works for me:
Ah, but:
remark = "This electronic edition of this
paper is a reprint of
the version appearing in The Bell System Technical
Journal 57 no. 6, part 2 (July--August 1978). In turn,
that was a revised version of an article that appeared
in Communications of the ACM, 17, No. 7 (July 1974),
pp. 365--375. That article was a revised version of a
paper presented at the Fourth ACM Symposium on
Operating Systems Principles, IBM Thomas J. Watson
Research Center, Yorktown Heights, New York, October
15--17, 1973. Most of the differences between versions
occur between the C. ACM version and the BSTJ printing;
we incorporated updated numbers and material on
portability.",
so not the original SOSP paper or the original 1974 CACM paper :-)
However, it's yet another version of the paper.
I've spent some time tracking down the various "versions" of this paper.
So far, I know of:
+ the mid-1971 draft, available at
https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/Research/McIlroy_v0/UnixEditionZ…
+ a later version which is in the Nokia Bell Labs archives, which I
haven't been able to get my hands on
+ the SOSP presentation, still unclear if there was an actual paper
+ the 1974 CACM paper
+ the version in 6th Edition Unix, available at
https://minnie.tuhs.org//cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V6/usr/doc/unix
+ the 1978 BSTL version cited above
Are there any others that people know about that I've missed?
I would like to do some work on how the content changed over time.
The result would be, for me, an interesting paper to read but somehow
I think the readership base would be limited :-)
Cheers, Warren
29 Sep
29 Sep
12:15 a.m.
As Kurt has already remarked, the page counts at
https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=800009&picked=prox
<https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=800009&picked=prox> seem all but conclusive
that only the abstract was published as part of the '73 SOSP. I have old paper copies
of OSR & SOSP stuff in the attic, but I don’t think they start until ’75. Next time
I’m looking there, which is probably months or more away, I’ll verify. Charlie
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Warren Toomey <wkt(a)tuhs.org> asks on Sat,
29 Sep 2018 09:04:44 +1000 for
a copy of the original 1972/73 paper on The UNIX TIME-SHARING SYSTEM
that was published at the SOSP Proceedings of the fourth ACM
symposium on operating system principles.
The URL in this entry from unix.bib works for me:
Ah, but:
remark = "This electronic edition of
this paper is a reprint of
the version appearing in The Bell System Technical
Journal 57 no. 6, part 2 (July--August 1978). In turn,
that was a revised version of an article that appeared
in Communications of the ACM, 17, No. 7 (July 1974),
pp. 365--375. That article was a revised version of a
paper presented at the Fourth ACM Symposium on
Operating Systems Principles, IBM Thomas J. Watson
Research Center, Yorktown Heights, New York, October
15--17, 1973. Most of the differences between versions
occur between the C. ACM version and the BSTJ printing;
we incorporated updated numbers and material on
portability.",
so not the original SOSP paper or the original 1974 CACM paper :-)
However, it's yet another version of the paper.
I've spent some time tracking down the various "versions" of this paper.
So far, I know of:
+ the mid-1971 draft, available at
https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/Research/McIlroy_v0/UnixEditionZ…
+ a later version which is in the Nokia Bell Labs archives, which I
haven't been able to get my hands on
+ the SOSP presentation, still unclear if there was an actual paper
+ the 1974 CACM paper
+ the version in 6th Edition Unix, available at
https://minnie.tuhs.org//cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V6/usr/doc/unix
+ the 1978 BSTL version cited above
Are there any others that people know about that I've missed?
I would like to do some work on how the content changed over time.
The result would be, for me, an interesting paper to read but somehow
I think the readership base would be limited :-)
Cheers, Warren 
12:48 a.m.
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 09:55:12AM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote:
+ a later version which is in the Nokia Bell Labs
archives, which I
haven't been able to get my hands on
Archive.org has it at https://archive.org/details/bstj-archives but I
collected this specific issue for my own purposes here:
http://sciops.net/information/bstj/
(archive.org's new web interface is ... touch-friendly.)
The paper in question is bstj57-6-1905_text.pdf.
khm
1:44 a.m.
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 6:50 PM Kurt H Maier <khm(a)sciops.net> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 09:55:12AM +1000, Warren
Toomey wrote:
I have a paper copy of the BSTJ in question...
Warner
+ a later version which is in the Nokia Bell Labs
archives, which I
haven't been able to get my hands on
Archive.org has it at https://archive.org/details/bstj-archives but I
collected this specific issue for my own purposes here:
http://sciops.net/information/bstj/
(archive.org's new web interface is ... touch-friendly.)
The paper in question is bstj57-6-1905_text.pdf.
10:11 a.m.
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 05:48:28PM -0700, Kurt H Maier wrote:
Archive.org has it at
https://archive.org/details/bstj-archives but I
collected this specific issue for my own purposes here:
http://sciops.net/information/bstj/
The paper in question is bstj57-6-1905_text.pdf.
I've also got a mirror of the relevant BSTJ at:
https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/Papers/BSTJ/
Cheers, Warren
10:32 a.m.
Hi Warren,
Thank you for all of your help here!
Truly,
Bill Corcoran
On Sep 29, 2018, at 6:12 AM, Warren Toomey
<wkt(a)tuhs.org> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 05:48:28PM -0700, Kurt H
Maier wrote:
Archive.org has it at https://archive.org/details/bstj-archives but I
collected this specific issue for my own purposes here:
http://sciops.net/information/bstj/
The paper in question is bstj57-6-1905_text.pdf.
I've also got a mirror of the relevant BSTJ at:
https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/Papers/BSTJ/
Cheers, Warren
28 Sep
28 Sep
11:24 p.m.
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 09:04:44AM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote:
Does anybody have a scan of the original SOSP paper?
Page 27 was the abstract, and page 28 was ARGOS. I'm not sure the paper
actually appeared in that publication; it seems it was presented at SOSP
but not published until CACM a year later. Can someone clarify?
khm
11:24 p.m.
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 09:04:44AM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote:
Does anybody have a scan of the original SOSP paper?
I'd also like a copy of the 1974 reprint in CACM.
Hah, I found a copy of the CACM reprint here:
https://www2.cs.duke.edu/courses/cps210/spring16/resources/papers/p365-ritc…
Cheers, Warren
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