[COFF] Most folks here started their OS learning with Unix

[Clem Cole]

BTW: that was cut/pasted from my quora answer: Clem Cole's answer: Which
Linux kernel version's source code is better for newbie to read?
<https://www.quora.com/Which-Linux-kernel-versions-source-code-is-better-for-newbie-to-read/answer/Clem-Cole>
ᐧ
ᐧ

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 10:23 AM Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:

> The architects of MIT's 6.828 course "Operating Systems Engineering") were
> unsatisfied with the current stable of systems for teaching, so they did a
> reimplementation of 6th Edition in modern ANSI C (with a couple of GNU
> extensions for things like assigning names to registers) targeting a
> multiprocessor x86.
>
> As I look it, it is a clean interesting, and accessible piece of work.  As
> the person that mentioned it to be said: "a modern take on a classic" - the
> course if being offered this fall at the URL:   6.828 / Fall 2014
> <http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2014/xv6.html>
>
> The latest xv6 source is available via
>         git clone git://pdos.csail.mit.edu/xv6/xv6.git
> <http://git//pdos.csail.mit.edu/xv6/xv6.git>
>
> Tools are can be found at:   6.828 / Fall 2014
> <http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2014/tools.html>
>
> Using the MIT course or the Lion's text will teach how the kernel works
> and how a user program interacts with it.   IMO: Lion's commentary is super
> and 100% of the source is there to read and ponder.  Please remember that
> generations of the best kernel hackers started with this document (although
> some of us predate it - but when I saw it I made a copy).
>
> And as I said, I just looked at the MIT documents and they are awesome
> too; but I have just opened them up and have not yet gotten a chance to try
> the exercises.
>
> What is even cooler is if you want to try xv6 - it will just run on your
> system using QEMU (which the MIT folks point too - they even made some mods
> to QEMU to help with their project).
> ᐧ
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 10:00 AM David <david at kdbarto.org> wrote:
>
>> Myself it was v6 (most likely the typesetter version).
>>
>> What I’d like to see discussed is how people today learn to write,
>> enhance, design, and otherwise get involved with an OS.
>>
>> When I was teaching at UCSD my class on Unix Internals used writing a
>> device driver as the class project and covered an overview of the Unix OS
>> using the Bach book. Even then (the late 80’s) it was hard to do a deep
>> dive into the whole of the Unix system.
>>
>> Today Linux is far too complex for someone to be able to sit down and
>> make useful contributions to in a few weeks possibly even months, unlike
>> v6, v7 or even 32v. By the time of BSD 4.1[a,b,c] and 4.2 those had
>> progressed to the point that someone just picking up the OS source and
>> trying to understand the whole thing (VM, scheduling, buffer cache, etc)
>> would take weeks to months.
>>
>> So what is happening today in the academic world to teach new people
>> about OS internals?
>>
>>         David
>> _______________________________________________
>> COFF mailing list
>> COFF at minnie.tuhs.org
>> https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coff
>>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/coff/attachments/20190110/ac161b0c/attachment.html>