[TUHS] Re: Porting Unix v6 to i386
P.A.Osborne at ukc.ac.uk
Mon Feb 4 21:48:28 AEST 2002
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 08:57:28PM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote:
> Well, seeing as though Paul referred to me (see below), I'll throw my
> own $0.02 in. I'd recommend V7 for several reasons:
> - it's more portable
> - the flavour of C used is more modern
> - it's got more useful applications (yacc etc.)
> - you get the stdio library
> - one last thing, there were some awful race conditions and
> bogosities in V6 that just had to be fixed. See the
> `50 bugs' tape, and also Dennis' own admission about
> 6th Edition savu/retu at
Hmmm. I am starting (I have to admit) to lean towards V7 as my thoughts
continue. I hadn't seen the "50 bugs" tape - although I believe I have
a copy archived somewhere. Must take a gander at some point and mount
it on the emulator.
> > Pondering just this over the weekend has left me wondering whether
> > MiniUnix would be a better initial place to start - as its essentially
> > V6, but without memory management or pipes. Which as a starting point
> > for the experiment may be an easier place to start.
> You could port that in a short amount of time, and treat it as a
> warming-up exercise!
Thats what I was thinking - it also alows a honing of very rusty skills,
and also allows building of tools that will be needed on the way.
Also I dont suppose that anyone has the tarred up source for MiniUnix
they could mail me? (It just saves me from extracting it out of
the tape/disk images the hard way).
One thing I am undecided about though is this:
Should the source be converted to from pre K&R C to ANSI C for
the sake of updating the system to run on a newer architecture (though
not much since the PC was released in 1980 and we only need 16bits).
Should we attempt to provide a new compiler (or preparser) which will
take the pre K&R C and just compile it as is?
I have to admit the above comments are straight off the top of my head,
and haven't been considered at any length and indeed should be (over
several pints of ale).
> > Also as a sideline, I don't know how the list owner of this list
> > feels about this discussion potentially swamping the list.
> I think the list needs some traffic :-) It might be worth setting up
> a list for the e-mails between co-developers, but also to have periodic
> status reports and questions sent to this list.
OK once we get to that stage (I am still reading up and checking out
the different architectures at present - so me writing code
isnt going to happen yet until I at least have been over the printed source
with a red pen) which could be a while, I guess either I can run
a list here at UKC or maybe Warren would like to put one up at Minnie?
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