[TUHS] Uwisc4.3 question...

[Aharon Robbins]

Hi. Most of those files would seem to be the generic XDR and RPC code
that Sun released for general use.

The three nfs/* files make me curious though, since Sun would license
their implementation, but not give it away.

It may be that the UWisc dist actually used real Sun code, in which
case anyone using it would have needed a SunOS license also.

Ah, those were the days.  I remember that the early versions of SunOS 4.1.x
had both RFS and NFS in them. The original System V Release 4 did too,
as did early versions of Solaris.  Sometime around Solaris 5.3 or so Sun
wised up that no-one was using or cared about RFS and they pulled it
out of Solaris. :-)

Arnold

> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:00:55 -0400
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] Uwisc4.3 question...
> From: Jason Stevens <neozeed at gmail.com>
> To: Aharon Robbins <arnold at skeeve.com>, tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by f7.net id n2OB0ta22275
>
> Yeah there is certainly sun code... for example here's the copyright
> bit in a file:
>
> /*
>  * xdr.c, Generic XDR routines implementation.
>  *
>  * Copyright (C) 1984, Sun Microsystems, Inc.
>  *
>  * These are the "generic" xdr routines used to serialize and de-serialize
>  * most common data items.  See xdr.h for more info on the interface to
>  * xdr.
>  */
>
> % egrep -ril 'sun microsystems' *
> h/des.h
> h/dnlc.h
> nfs/nfs_server.c
> nfs/nfs_vfsops.c
> nfs/nfs_vnodeops.c
> rpc/auth.h
> rpc/authunix_prot.c
> rpc/auth_kern.c
> rpc/auth_none.c
> rpc/auth_unix.c
> rpc/auth_unix.h
> rpc/clnt.h
> rpc/clnt_kudp.c
> rpc/clnt_perror.c
> rpc/clnt_raw.c
> rpc/clnt_simple.c
> rpc/clnt_tcp.c
> rpc/clnt_udp.c
> rpc/kudp_fastsend.c
> rpc/pmap_clnt.c
> rpc/pmap_clnt.h
> rpc/pmap_getmaps.c
> rpc/pmap_getport.c
> rpc/pmap_prot.c
> rpc/pmap_prot.h
> rpc/pmap_rmt.c
> rpc/rpc.h
> rpc/rpc_msg.h
> rpc/rpc_prot.c
> rpc/subr_kudp.c
> rpc/svc.c
> rpc/svc.h
> rpc/svc_auth.c
> rpc/svc_auth.h
> rpc/svc_auth_unix.c
> rpc/svc_kudp.c
> rpc/svc_raw.c
> rpc/svc_simple.c
> rpc/svc_tcp.c
> rpc/svc_udp.c
> rpc/xdr.c
> rpc/xdr.h
> rpc/xdr_array.c
> rpc/xdr_float.c
> rpc/xdr_mbuf.c
> rpc/xdr_mem.c
> rpc/xdr_rec.c
> rpc/xdr_reference.c
> rpc/xdr_stdio.c
> sys/heap_kmem.c
> sys/vfs_dnlc.c
> ufs/quota.c
> ufs/quota_syscalls.c
> ufs/quota_ufs.c
> ufs/ufs_dir.c
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Aharon Robbins <arnold at skeeve.com> wrote:
> >> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:53:07 -0400
> >> From: Jason Stevens <neozeed at gmail.com>
> >> To: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
> >> Subject: [TUHS] Uwisc4.3 question...
> >>
> >> I went ahead and downloaded this [
> >> http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/4BSD/Distributions/thirdparty/UWisc4.3/ ],
> >> made up some tape images and installed it on SIMH...  And what I found
> >> is that as far as I can tell there is *NO* information about this
> >> thing..
> >>
> >> All I can find is that it includes the vfs layer from SunOS and it's
> >> NFS...  It looks like beta software from the root user being "The Not
> >> Ready for Prime Time Super User".
> >
> > Does the code actually say "Sun Microsystems"?  If not, then this might have
> > been the VFS and NFS stuff that got folded back into BSD Reno.
> >
> > I think there were other schools that ran this. At the same time
> > as this entry (1989) I was a sysadmin in the computing center
> > of Emory University and we were running Mt. Xinu's mixture of
> > 4.3 BSD with NFS from Sun, and then later their commercial Unix
> > on Vax 11/780s, and starting to move to Sparcs running SunOS 4.0.
> One of the uni's I went to made that transition in the mid 90's.. At
> that time I didn't realize how many 'upgrades' they had made to Ultrix
> to make it... usable.  Although I don't think I miss archie/veronica
> but the simplicity of pine/lynx is kind of there.. oh sure they still
> run on 'modern' things but it isn't the same really.
> >
> > The comp. center preferred having a vendor with whom there could be
> > a support contract - IIRC then otherwise we probably would have
> > been running this too.
> >
> > Ah, those were the days, when men were real men, and computers
> > were vaxen. :-)
> >
> >> FWIW here is the UUCP entry I found...
> >> ------
> >> #N    eedsp
> >> #S    Vax 11/780; 4.3+NFS Wisconsin Unix
> >> #O    School of Electrical Engineering
> >> #C    Deborah J. Jackson
> >> #E    gt-eedsp!deb
> >> #T    +1 404 894 3058
> >> #P    School of EE, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA, 30332
> >> #L    84 23 43 W / 33 46 30 N
> >> #W    eedsp!deb (Deb Jackson); Wed Jul 19 11:35:13 EDT 1989
> >> ------
> >
> > I knew Deb Jackson and worked with her a little when we were both at GT
> > (I was in Information and Computer Science, not EE) and then a lot when
> > I suggested that the start-up company I was at hire her (which they
> > did). I've not seen her in around 18 years, nor do I know where she is
> > now, although presumably she's still in Atlanta somewhere.
> >
> > Arnold
> >
>
> It's funny the weird things that get left around the internet... and
> the host file from that tape image is MASSIVE.. lol and I thought
> having a DNS zone with that many enteries was crazy...  I did manage
> to hack the networking for it to work... It's not elegant, but
> commenting out the error checking in if_de's derecv procedure seems to
> work... I could ping around for the last 5 hours, and telnet into it.
> I'll have to build some package with simh to run it on windows...
>