[TUHS] Irwin 285
wb at freebie.xs4all.nl
Fri Jan 22 06:36:55 AEST 2010
Quoting Larry McVoy, who wrote on Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:11:25PM -0800 ..
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 09:00:34PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > Quoting Larry McVoy, who wrote on Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:58:18AM -0800 ..
> > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 08:56:19PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > > > Quoting Jochen Kunz, who wrote on Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 08:48:29PM +0100 ..
> > > > > On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:59:17 +0100
> > > > > Wilko Bulte <wb at freebie.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > QIC is OK, but the capacity zukz..
> > > > > Depends. It is perfectly suited as backup for a vintage Unix system
> > > > > like a Sun 3 / 4 or SGI. (My SGI Personal IRIS 4D35 has a 250 MB QIC
> > > >
> > > > Sun 3 had rather small QIC tapes, I think I had 60MB in mine?
> > > >
> > > > > drive for OS instales and backup.) Also note that the latest QIC in
> > > > > its SLR / MLR incarnation had a capacity of 20 GB.
> > > >
> > > > I gave up on QIC when I had a 2GB version. Had a lot to do with the fact I
> > > > was given a DLT, I admit :)
> > >
> > > Does anyone still use tape for personal backup? I've long since gone to
> > > external usb drives that I shove in the gun safe (aka fire safe).
> > LTO3 here :) But the disks are getting to be too big to fit a level 0 on a
> > single tape. I need to go and try to understand something like Amanda
> > backup s/w I think. Suggestions welcome.
> Dude, 800GB when there are 2TB drives? My suggestions are
> a) don't put that much shit on a single drive, you are just asking for
> headaches. Don't tell me you can't break it up, of course you can.
I know... I've spent years and years in storage engineering and support.
I run RAID on my drives, no worries there ;)
> b) use drives. They are the new tape.
> LTO3 800GB drive: $1200 plus $30/800GB tape.
> WD 1TB drives: $90.
> Just the LT03 drive itself gives you 13 1TB drives. Add one of those
> USB external drive drop in connectors and use the drives just like tapes
> except one hell of a lot faster, especially for restores.
Sure. I know. Big SATA drives are cheap over here as well, like 1.5T for
110 EURO or somesuch. I just happen to own a LTO3 and enough tapes already, so the
economics are not the issue. Just need to have a proper piece of open source
backup software that runs on FreeBSD.
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