[TUHS] Bryan Cantrill on bfs & ta

[Larry McVoy]

Go Bart.  I took some classes from him in grad school (I think, did
undergrad there as well), liked his style.  Smart guy.

Do the dtrace guys credit Bart at all?

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 09:05:46AM -0500, A. P. Garcia wrote:
> Yes, Bart Miller regarding "Fine-grained dynamic instrumentation of
> commodity operating sytem kernels":
> ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/paradyn/papers/Tamches99FineGrained.pdf
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Larry McVoy <lm at bitmover.com> wrote:
> 
> > Which professor and which work?   I'm guessing Bart.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 08:01:44AM -0500, A. P. Garcia wrote:
> > > I watched one he gave at a usenix conference where he sort of recapped
> > some
> > > of the history of solaris and how oracle ruined everything and drove away
> > > all the talent. Whether he had a valid point or not, it wasn't very
> > > becoming. I don't know..it just never looks good when you air that stuff
> > > out in public.
> > >
> > > That said, it's hard to exaggerate the brilliance of dtrace. Like a
> > > uw-madison professor said about some of the work that inspired it, it's
> > > like watching in fine detail the inner parts of an engine move while
> > going
> > > down the highway at 60 mph.
> > > On Oct 21, 2012 7:56 PM, "Larry McVoy" <lm at bitmover.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Did anyone watch his talk?  I just tried and couldn't make out what he
> > was
> > > > talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Bryan's a smart guy but a little subjective.  I spent a day wandering
> > > > around San Franciso with him (we used to live within a few blocks of
> > > > each other) talking tech stuff, hardware, os, etc.  He was completely
> > > > rational, smart, insightful, until we got to either sparc or solaris.
> > > > Then he was subjective as hell, he just couldn't back away from them
> > > > enough to make an objective comparison to other solutions.
> > > >
> > > > Funny thing was that so long as sparc/solaris weren't the subject
> > matter
> > > > he was very objective, could see the pros/cons of anything.
> > > >
> > > > I guess he drank the Sun koolaid.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:51:20PM +0100, Sevan / Venture37 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk8aZv0JJuk&feature=player_detailpage#t=3493s
> > > > >
> > > > > "SunOS has never run on a 16bit machine"
> > > > >
> > > > > My response was M68000 & 386 but his counter response was they both
> > > > > supported 32bit addressing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sevan
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