[TUHS] 4.3 Wisc file transfer

[Henry Bent]

I haven't worked too much with 4.3BSD but I have worked extensively with
Ultrix 1 which is basically 4.2.  If you can get a relatively recent gmake
and gcc 2 going, that should be enough to get bash 2 built, and from there
you can use that to run configure scripts with LIBS=-liberty which should
be enough for most smaller programs.  Perl 5.6 should be possible. If you
really want a web server, maybe try thttpd.  MySQL/PHP/WebDAV seem like a
pipe dream, 4.3BSD doesn't have dynamic loading and even if you can get
around that you're still going to run into memory limitations in a big
hurry.

Personally, I just set up rsh so that I can use rcp to move files in and
out. Setting up rsh on a modern OS can be a pain but it's still much
simpler than most of what is being proposed here. I find that life is much
easier if you look at what tools are available in the historic OS and find
a way to use those with a modern OS, rather than the other way around.

Oh, and I'm not sure what the 4.3BSD default is, but make sure your
interface isn't using trailers. They don't play well with modern networking.

-Henry

On 9 April 2017 at 23:56, <jsteve at superglobalmegacorp.com> wrote:

> I have a pre-built Lynx for 4.3 UWISC here:
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> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bsd42/files/Package%
> 20Tapes/4.3%20BSD%20Uwisc/lynx-2.8.2.binary.BSD-4.3.Uwisc.tap.bz2/download
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> I recall 4.3 RENO being incredibly unstable, and having major issues
> compiling lynx as some of the files are pretty big.  Basically I found 4.3
> UWisc hiding in a directory on TUHS, and though I’d see what it was and I
> found it to be a FAR FAR superior thing to not only RENO, but stock 4.3 .
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> Speaking of AberMUD, I have version 2 built for pretty much everything....
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> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bsd42/files/Package%
> 20Tapes/4.3%20BSD%20Uwisc/AberMUD-2.BSD-4.3.Uwisc.tap.bz2/download
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> I need to troll the old usenet stuff for some sz/rz and an old httpd,
> maybe Apache 1.3 may work as well, I mean I did get it to actually build
> for NT 3. 1 of all things, so a BSD shouldn’t be such a long shot.  Maybe
> add in a perl, and we can have a semi useful gateway....  Although I guess
> adding in MySQL and going full *AMP may be a bit crazy, but it could be
> useful.. And maybe it’d open up WebDAV for shuffling files around.
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> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
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> *From: *William Pechter <pechter at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, 10 April 2017 11:33 AM
> *To: *Mary Ann Horton <mah at mhorton.net>; Warren Toomey <wkt at tuhs.org>
> *Cc: *TUHS main list <tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [TUHS] 4.3 Wisc file transfer
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> Should work fine with the 4.3 template tape... But I would save the
> original kernel
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> just in case
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> I moved binaries from the older 4.3 to Reno and uWisc without problems.
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> Ftp works.  I wish I could get lynx and wet to build.
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> Bill
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Warren Toomey <wkt at tuhs.org>
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> To: Mary Ann Horton <mah at mhorton.net>
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> Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org>
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> Sent: Sun, 09 Apr 2017 20:05
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> Subject: Re: [TUHS] 4.3 Wisc file transfer
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> On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 10:14:06AM -0700, Mary Ann Horton wrote:
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> > What's the best way to transfer files in and out of the simh 4.3BSD Wisc
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> > version?  I can do it with tape files, but it seems like FTP or ssh or
> NFS
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> > ought to be possible, and none is behaving at first blush.
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> I don't know how close 4.3UWisc is (in terms of config files etc.) to
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> valilla 4.3BSD, but you might be able to untar the 4bsd-uucp customisation
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> tarball over the top of 4.3UWisc. That would get you the ftp binary with
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> PASV on by default, and the de0 interface set up with a working NAT IP
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> address. Then you could set up a local ftp server on another box.
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> I'm nearly out the door for a week's break else I'd try it out.
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> Cheers, Warren
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