[TUHS] basic tools / Universal Unix

[Andy Kosela]

On Monday, October 16, 2017, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Jon Steinhart <jon at fourwinds.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jon at fourwinds.com');>> wrote:
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>> I have a similar and maybe even more extreme position.  When I was a
>> manager
>> I placed restrictions on the tools and customizations for members of my
>> team.
>> My goal was to make sure that any team member could go over to any other
>> team
>> member's desk and get stuff done.
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> ​And I think this loops back to what started some of this threat.  The
> idea of a programmer with 'good taste.'
> Rob (and Brian) railed on BSD in cat -v considered harmful
> <http://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v/> and ‘*Program Design in the UNIX
> Environment*’ (pdf version
> <http://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v/unix_prog_design.pdf>, ps version
> <http://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v/unix_prog_design.ps>) but the points in
> it was then and are still now, fresh:  What is it that you need to get the
> job done - to me, that is Doug's "Universal Unix" concept.
>
> When I answer questions on quora about learning Linux and other UNIX
> derivative, I still point them at their  book:   *The Unix Programming
> Environment
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/013937681X?ie=UTF8&tag=catv-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=013937681X>*
>
> I would say, if the can login into the system and complete the exercises
> in UPE without having to make changes, you are pretty close to Doug's
> "Universal UNIX" environment.  And if you can use the tools, without having
> to think about them and they pretty much are what you rely upon everyday,
> you are getting close to my ideal of 'good taste.'
>
>
"The UNIX Programming Environment" is still one of my favorite books of all
times.  That is the essence of Universal Unix philosophy.

If only Linux, which is de facto standard Unix operating system these days,
would strive towards that simplicity and compatibility with this Universal
Unix instead of going systemd route -- that would make me forever happy.

--Andy
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