ARPANET Information Brochure (December 1985)

[Larry McVoy]

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 08:57:15AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>     > From: Larry McVoy
> 
>     >>> I was told, by someone that I don't remember, that uwisc was the 11th
>     >>> node on the net. ... If anyone can confirm or deny that I'd love to know.
> 
>     > I dunno.
> 
> I don't have any axe to grind here. I don't care if they were the first, or
> the last. You asked "If anyone can confirm or deny that I'd love to know",
> and all I'm trying to do is _accurately_ answer that.
> 
> 
>     > That 1985 map has uwisc in there
> 
> I have a large collection of ARPANET maps here:
> 
>   http://www.chiappa.net/~jnc/tech/arpanet.html
> 
> and the first one on which UWisc shows up is the October, 1981 geographical
> map - over ten years since the ARPANet went up (December, 1969 is the earliest
> map I have there).
> 
> Which "net" are we talking about here? ARPANET? CSNET? Internet? The UUCP network
> long post-dated the ARPANET - I think it was started in the late 70's, no?
> 
> The earliest Internet map I have is from 1982, here:
> 
>   https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Internet_map_in_February_82.png
> 
> and again UWisc is not on it. (Yes, I know it's on Wikipedia, but I'm the one
> who uploaded it, so I can verify it.)
> 
> 
> CSNET I don't know much about, that may have been what the comment referred
> to.
> 
> Wikipedia (for what little we can trust it) says "By 1981, three sites were
> connected: University of Delaware, Princeton University, and Purdue
> University"; since Lawrence Landweber at UWis was the main driver of CSNET, I
> doubt it would have been far behind.

Yeah, I bet it was Larry Landweber who told me, so maybe it was CSNET.  I
sent him mail, we'll see if he replies.

--lm