[TUHS] Why Pascal is Not My Favorite Programming Language - Unearthed!
Toby Thain
toby at telegraphics.com.au
Fri Sep 1 13:59:33 AEST 2017
On 2017-08-31 10:38 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Toby Thain <toby at telegraphics.com.au
> <mailto:toby at telegraphics.com.au>> wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > But the problem was that in those days, because Wirth had designed it
> > for complete small student programs, it was hard to write large real
> > programs (as Brian points). So people fixed it and every fixed it
> > differently. Pascal was hardly standardized. ...
> >
> > And this was the root of the real problem.
> >
> > You could not write “real” programs in it and really make them run on
> > actual systems. Brian was writing that paper, after an exercise in
>
>
> Professor Knuth seemed to manage OK, writing TeX and METAFONT in Pascal
> (using his literate programming toolset, but that did not extend the
> language much).
>
>
> To be fair, I think that Knuth originally wrote both TeX and METAFONT in
> the SAIL language for the PDP-10. He switched to Pascal (again on the
> PDP-10) later.
>
My point was that these are very much "real world" programs in a rather
vanilla Pascal.
(And if you want to bring SAIL into it as another substrate for "real
world" programs, we might learn something from contrasting it with
Pascal and C. I don't remember anything about it.)
--Toby
>
> - Dan C.
>
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