[TUHS] Good ol' ed (Was *ROFF)

[Warner Losh]

Lord knows I learned Unix by watching my peers type it...

In the long run that was both good and bad, though, since now all I get to
see people type are shell scripts which range from brilliant to rubbish...
The only way to know where on that spectrum things are is to read a bunch
of them... and to get burned a few times stealing the techniques that are
best described, in hindsight, as "it seemed like a good idea at the time."

Warner

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Clem cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:

> Yeah.  We lost that and it was a good thing.  Programming became a
> operation between you and your computer in the privacy of your own office.
>
> Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not
> quite.
>
> > On May 15, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 08:17:38AM -0600, arnold at skeeve.com wrote:
> >> "Ron Natalie" <ron at ronnatalie.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I never really learned VI.   I can stumbled through it in ex mode if I
> have
> >>> to.   If there's no EMACS on the UNIX system I'm using, I use ed.
> >>> You get real good at regular expressions.    Some of my employees were
> >>> pretty amazed at how fast I could make code changes with just ed.
> >>
> >> I did learn vi, after having learned ed first.  I drop down to the ex
> >> command line for major regexp-based surgery too.  I also get the
> amazement
> >> from co-workers who watch me do stuff. :-)  This is particularly true
> >> of the, er, younger coworkers (kids today ... :-) who can't manage
> >> outside an IDE.
> >
> > In fairness to them, I don't know how you learn the good stuff outside
> > of a terminal room.  I learned so much by watching the screen change
> > and going "WTF?  How did you do that?"
> >
> > There is only so much you can stuff into a manual.
> > --
> > ---
> > Larry McVoy                     lm at mcvoy.com
> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm
>
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