[TUHS] Macs and future unix derivatives

[Adam Thornton]

Once you add the "s" editor (so you have a screen editor) and UUCP, v7 is
an adequate daily driver, in my recent experience.  No, it didn't actually
replace my Mac, but with a way to get data on and off it and a decent
editor (which I personally do not feel "ed" is)...it's totally OK.  I can
edit files and move them around, which honestly is most of my job.

Adam

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 8:59 PM M Douglas McIlroy <
m.douglas.mcilroy at dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> > Do they *really* want something which is just V7 Unix, with nothing else?
> > No TCP/IP, no hot-plug USB support?  No web browsing?
>
> > Oh, you wanted more than that?  Feature bloat!  Feature bloat!
> > Feature bloat!   Shame!  Shame!   Shame!
>
> % ls /usr/share/man/man2|wc
>     495     495    7230
> % ls /bin|wc
>    2809    2809   30468
>
> How many of roughly 500 system calls (to say nothing of uncounted
> ioctl's) do you think are necessary for writing those few crucial
> capabilities that distinguish Linux from v7? There is
> undeniably bloat, but only a sliver of it contributes to the
> distinctive utility of today's systems.
>
> Or consider this. Unix grew by about 39 system calls in its first
> decade, but an average of 40
> per decade ever since. Is this accelerated growth more symptomatic of
> maturity or of cancer?
>
> Doug
>
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