[TUHS] [tuhs] The Unix shell: a 50-year view
Larry McVoy
lm at mcvoy.com
Sat Jul 3 07:36:48 AEST 2021
As I started reading it I found plenty to disagree with in the first few
paragraphs but they completely lost me at "After all, moving from System
V init scripts to systemd has arguably improvedthe Linux boot sequence."
Um, no, just, no.
On Fri, Jul 02, 2021 at 03:24:20PM -0600, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote:
> In this week's BSDNow.tv podcast, available at
>
> https://www.bsdnow.tv/409
>
> there is a story about a new conference paper on the Unix shell. The
> paper is available at
>
> Unix shell programming: the next 50 years
> HotOS '21: Workshop on Hot Topics in Operating Systems, Ann
> Arbor, Michigan, 1 June, 2021--3 June, 2021
> https://doi.org/10.1145/3458336.3465294
>
> The tone is overall negative, though they do say nice things about
> Doug McIlroy and Steve Johnson, and they offer ideas about
> improvements.
>
> List readers will have their own views of the paper. My own is that,
> despite its dark corners, the Bourne shell has served us
> extraordinarily well, and I have been writing in it daily for decades
> without being particularly bothered by the many issues raised by the
> paper's authors. Having dealt with so-called command shells on
> numerous other operating systems, at least the Unix shells rarely get
> in my way.
>
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