Tom Teixeira tjteixeira at earthlink.net
Wed Aug 10 04:52:09 AEST 2022

I'll confess: I was never very good at bench checking batch programs, 
but only had at most a handful of assignments in college: generally 
cycles were cheap on time-sharing systems and I quickly adapted to 
interactive debugging.

Over time (with embedded systems in networking gear and other 
applications), that wasn't possible and the new skill I admired was 
being able to add effective logging to diagnose problems. And since most 
of those systems were some combination of 
real-time/multiprocessor/multithreaded, it was generally not possible to 
deterministically repeat the sequence.

On 8/9/22 11:15 AM, Andrew Hume wrote:
> rob, clem:
> has there been a shift in ability? or is this more likely a sampling bias
> (because there were so many fewer programmers then)?
>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 6:34 AM, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 2:12 AM Rob Pike <robpike at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     I still marvel at the productivity and precision of his
>>     generation of programmers.
>> Amen.
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