[TUHS] Managers/architects (was: AIX moved into maintainance mode)

[Charles H Sauer (he/him)]

Not trying to keep AIX in the discussion, but the 3 in 1 list should 
include Glenn Henry. Glenn was primarily a manager when I worked for 
him, but was an architect before then and is still a programmer -- see 
the summary at 
http://web.archive.org/web/20200105071617/http://www.ece.utexas.edu/events/centaur-technologys-deep-learning-coprocessor-technology 
and/or https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102738382

Charlie

On 1/19/2023 12:00 PM, Marc Donner wrote:
> I'd certainly list Bob Sproull for all three, from personal observation.
> 
> My guess is that Ivan Sutherland probably qualified back when he still 
> programmed ... I mean, after all, he invented the linked list in order 
> to implement his thesis program (Sketchpad) in about 1960.
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> 
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 12:50 PM Noel Chiappa <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu 
> <mailto:jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>> wrote:
> 
>          > From: Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com <mailto:lm at mcvoy.com>>
> 
>          > At least 30 years ago I said "He's good programmer, a good
>     architect,
>          > and a good manager. I've never seen that in one person before".
> 
>     Corby? Although he was just down the hall from me, I never saw him
>     operating
>     in any of those roles; maybe some of the old-time Unix people have some
>     insight. Saltzer is about off-scale in #2; probably good as a manager
>     (although I had a monumental blow-up with him in the hallway on the 5th
>     floor, but I was pretty close to unmanageable when I was young ;-);
>     he took
>     over Athena when it was stumbling, and got it going. Dave Clark is
>     high on
>     all three - he could manage me! :-)
> 
>     Bob Taylor? PARC did some _incredibly_ important stuff in his time.
>     Yes, I
>     know a lot of the credit goes to those under him (Butler Lampson,
>     Alan Kay -
>     not sure if he was in Taylor's group, Boggs, Metcalfe, etc) but he
>     had to
>     manage them all. Not sure what his technical role was, though.
> 
>     Vint Cerf? Again, A1*** as a manager, but had some failings as a
>     architect. I
>     think the biggest share of the blame for the decision to remove the
>     variable
>     size addresses from TCP/IP3, and replace them with 32-bit addresses in
>     TCP/IPv4, goes to him. (Alas, I was down the hall, not in the room,
>     that day;
>     I wasn't allowed in until the _next_ meeting. I like to think that
>     if I'd been
>     there, I could/would have pointed out the 'obvious' superior
>     alternative -
>     'only length 4 must be supported at this time'.)
> 
>              Noel
> 
>     PS: ISTR that about a month ago someone was asking for management papers
>     from that era (but I was too busy to reply); two good ones are:
> 
>        - F. J.  Corbat??, C. T. Clingen, "A Managerial View of the
>     Multics System Development"
>     https://multicians.org/managerial.html
>     <https://multicians.org/managerial.html>
>        - F. J. Corbat??, C. T. Clingen, and J. H. Saltzer, "Multics --
>     the first seven years"
>     https://multicians.org/f7y.html <https://multicians.org/f7y.html>
> 

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