[TUHS] The Web Service on Minnie is 30 Years Old Today

[Douglas McIlroy]

Warren,

Well done indeed! Though the first website, info.cern.ch, is still running,
it's not under the loving care of its originator.

Doug

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 4:45 PM James Johnston <audioskeptic at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Well done. Has the hardware evolved?  I presume so, but I do remember one
> legacy machine from the early 1980's at BTL (icarus, an 11/23), that when
> it shut down forever in 1996, was a microvax, with its bus connected to a
> standard PDP11 bus, that connected to a Q-bus, and the original discs were
> still on line.  It's uptime was never more than 350+ days, though, because
> of once a year UPS testing.  In its last incarnation, it did nothing but
> mail routing, and that barely.  I don't think anything changed on it in the
> last 10 years, not even the system.
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 1:15 PM Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 4:02 PM Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 1:58 PM Rich Salz <rich.salz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think this makes minnie one of the longest running web services
>>>>> still in existence :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Congrats. In a ship of Theseus sense.:)
>>>>
>>>
>>> *We all sail in the Unix ship of Theseus..*. Every system today had
>>> code from Unix directly, or from another ship that was built of the builts
>>> of one that was split between a couple of groups. Yes, even Linux: lots of
>>> networking userland came from BSD, for example, and while lots have been
>>> rewritten, that's kinda the point of the ship of Theseus... :)
>>>
>> +1
>> My observation is that Linux is just the current (and most
>> successful) implementation of ideas that Doug, Ken, Rudd, Dennis, *et
>> al.* started and others have contributed to over the years.  And like
>> the thought experiment described, there is no reason why the ship can not
>> be changed.  It still sails the same way to the same places.
>>
>>
>> ᐧ
>>
>
>
> --
> James D. (jj) Johnston
>
> Chief Scientist, Immersion Networks
>
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