[TUHS] PL.8 [was Re: mental architecture models, Anyone ever heard of teaching a case study of Initial Unix?
Charles H Sauer (he/him)
sauer at technologists.com
Sun Jul 7 13:26:00 AEST 2024
On 7/6/2024 8:39 PM, John Levine wrote:
> It appears that Charles H Sauer (he/him) <sauer at technologists.com> said:
>> I like the 80% explanation, but suspect PL.8 was really named PL.8 to go
>> along with the 801 processor architecture defined in Building 801 aka
>> Thomas J. Watson Research Center in Yorktown Heights. There are probably
>> living Yorktown alumni that could be definitive.
>
> John Cocke said in a paper in IBM J R&D V44 #1/2, Jan 2000, p 50:
>
> The result [of the language design] was the PL.8 language, the
> ".8" implying that it had about 80% of the richness of PL/I.
> PL.8 bore the same relation to PL/I as the 801 architecture
> had to System/370.
>
> Not gonna argue with him.
John C isn't around to say one way or the other. Perhaps he really did
say that, but ...
o That paper seems to be a reprint of the 1990 IBM J R&D V34 paper
o I suspect co-author Vicky wrote 80% of the paper and wrote the 80%
sentence. (I had substantial contact with Vicky at IBM. She and Peter
became my neighbors for a while after I left IBM. Peter was also a judge
at cat shows and I would see him at those.)
o Marc Auslander and Marty Hopkins seemed to be the driving forces
behind the PL.8 compiler and language. I think their June 1982 "An
Overview of the PL.8 Compiler" SIGPLAN Notices 17 (6) was the first
external notice of the compiler and language.
o Radin's 1976 "The 801 minicomputer" eventually appeared externally in
March 1982 SIGPLAN Notices 17 (4). That paper refers to the "801
compiler" and alludes to differences from PL/I that typified PL.8, e.g.,
offsets vs. pointers, but doesn't name the language.
o ".8" implying 80% of the richness of PL/I sounds revisionist
Far afield from TUHS...
Charlie
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