[TUHS] Version 256 of systemd boasts '42% less Unix philosophy' ??? The Register

[Dave Horsfall]

On Thu, 13 Jun 2024, Larry McVoy wrote:

> This is all well and good but what I, and I suspect other boomers like 
> me, are looking for, is something like Ubuntu without systemd.  I'm a 
> xubuntu guy (Ubuntu with a lighter weight desktop), but whatever.  
> Ubuntu is fine, everything works there.

I'm looking for something like Debian for its Amateur radio ("ham") stuff 
for a laptop, but without the "systemd" monstrosity; I've seen a reference 
to "Devuan" (?) which might suit me.

> So is there an "Everything just works" distro without systemd?  A guy 
> can hope but I suspect not.

Hopefully...

> I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass but I'm 62, I prefer to spend my 
> effort on fishing on the ocean, I'm not some young guy that wants to put 
> in a ton of hours on my Linux install, I like Linux because it is Unix 
> and it is trivial to install.  Windows?  Hours and hours of finding 
> drivers after you find some USB network connector that Windows knows? No 
> thanks.  *BSD - have you installed one of those?  It's a trip back to 
> the 1980s, those installers are fine for BSD developers but just suck 
> compared to Linux.  Mainstream Linux just works.

Only 62?  I turn 72 in a few months :-)  And I *don't* like Linux 
precisely because it is *not* Unix (too many irritating differences), but 
I need something for the aforesaid lapdog (with some proprietary hardware, 
but 3rd-party drivers exist).  As for *BSD, yes, many times; I started 
with SunOS, used OpenBSD/NetBSD/FreeBSD (the latter is my current server), 
and I really don't see any problem.  Heck, even my Mac runs FreeBSD 
(albeit on steroids)...

I have to say though that the SunOS graphical installer was beautiful :-)

-- Dave