[TUHS] Version 256 of systemd boasts '42% less Unix philosophy' The Register

Greg A. Woods woods at robohack.ca
Fri Jun 14 03:07:36 AEST 2024


At Thu, 13 Jun 2024 16:03:30 -0400, Dan Cross <crossd at gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Version 256 of systemd boasts '42% less Unix philosophy' The Register
> 
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 3:18 PM Greg A. Woods <woods at robohack.ca> wrote:
> > [snip]
> > If it were more about servers then it would look more like SMF, or maybe
> > launchd, and it's code wouldn't look like it was written by a grade
> > school student.
> 
> Sorry, but this is exactly the sort of overly dismissive attitude that
> I was referring to earlier. You undermine your own argument by
> mentioning SMF (which can automatically restart services when the
> crash), for example.

No, that's exactly my point!

SMF isn't the anywhere near the nearly-bootable monster systemd seems to
be, and it isn't filled with grade-school-level code, and it _is_
written much more in keeping with the Unix tool philosophy.  It manages
services, it does it in a well defined and predictable way, and it
doesn't try to take over the universe.

Launchd isn't quite so clean and Unix-like, but it's still a well
designed more-or-less single-purpose tool!  (Albeit one with a rather
wide set of specifications.)  Some of Apples other "frameworks" tend to
look a bit more like some of systemd, but that's different part of the
problem.

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