[TUHS] Version 256 of systemd boasts '42% less Unix philosophy' The Register

Greg A. Woods woods at robohack.ca
Wed Jun 19 08:44:39 AEST 2024


At Mon, 17 Jun 2024 17:44:40 -0600, Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Version 256 of systemd boasts '42% less Unix philosophy' The Register
>
> ....  There was no upstream
> anymore. Csrg was gone, and all successor BSD projects assumed they were
> the new upstream.

Hmmm.... I never really thought of it that way before!

I guess I had hoped everyone would come to realize a new
one-size-fits-all upstream would be a "good thing", or
perhaps even a necessity, and that none would automatically
slip into thinking they were it without first reaching some
consensus with other projects -- at least between NetBSD
and FreeBSD for starters (and I suppose all hope of this had
long evaporated before any of the other off-shoots formed).

> The NIH stuff sunk adopting jails, geom, smp, etc from FreeBSD and almost
> sunk make from unifying some years ago. Too much ego and wanting perfect
> code so all that other code is junk... It's a hard problem because
> continuing engineering is actually hard and boring work nobody wants to do
> as their fun hobby... not least because it requires a lot of time to keep
> up and the skills of a diplomat, which previous few people have.. plus a
> perception that mere merging never advances the state of the art...

Indeed!

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