[TUHS] Origin of the name POSIX (was: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection)

[Clem Cole]

One other thought.  Given the formal process that IEEE required us to use
for proposals and making additions/corrections - really have a hard time
imagining rms being willing to have put up with those processes or frankly
the rest of the committee putting up with him in general.  It takes a
special type of person that can compromise to be a part of a group like
that.  Rms is not cut out of that cloth.

Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual


On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:02 PM Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:

> FWIW: it is possible rms sent in comments and offered thoughts that we had
> to handle.  He may consider that as partition.  He might have even been at
> later .2 meetings  after I stopped coming.  But he was not at any .1
> meetings and the name was created during that time by Jim Isaak IIRC.
>
> FWIW Keith Bostics was at some of the .2 meetings Keith might haven there
> when we got .1 to the  stage and when started the .2 work. I was part of
> all off .1 and an early draft of .2.  Keith and I wrote the proposal that
> became pax after I demonstrated tpio my hack to splice a cpio front end to
> tar (I never wrote car).  A few meetings later we got the first draft of .2
> out and was pretty much done at that point.
>
> So if rms joined then it’s possible but the standard was in the oven
> before he might have done anything.  And since we travelled to different
> sites for the meetings and he did not have a firm to cover his travel
> costs, I would very surprised he was at many later ones either.
>
>
> Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:46 PM Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
>
>> Garbage.  Rms was never at any early IEEE meeting that I was at - you
>> could smell him a mile away as he rarely bathed.  I certainly knew him in
>> those days.  I also have an early draft with all participants named and he
>> is not one of them!!
>>
>> Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 9:11 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog at lemis.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 20:44:12 -0400, Clem Cole wrote:
>>> > rms had nothing to do with the name posix.  I have no idea where that
>>> > comment came from.
>>>
>>> At the very least, from rms himself:
>>> https://stallman.org/articles/posix.html
>>> There's a reference to this page in the Wikipedia page on POSIX.
>>>
>>> > The p1003 committee for Ieee was the portable operating system
>>> standard and
>>> > at the time adding ix was the norm.  POSIX became the term we all used
>>> to
>>> > refer to the work we doing.  Rms was not involved in any way
>>>
>>> rms suggests that he was involved in the committee?  Not true?  Maybe
>>> a different, related committee?
>>>
>>> Greg
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