[TUHS] BSD/OS

[Wesley Parish]

On 8/09/24 14:19, Larry McVoy wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 07, 2024 at 05:52:29PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2024, 4:53???PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog at lemis.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday,  4 September 2024 at  4:49:47 -0400, Jim Carpenter wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 3:33???AM Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling at kev009.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Many of the BSD/OS versions have disc images on archive.org or
>>>>> osarchive.org where the 7.4GB rar file was helpful for getting a 5.1
>>>>> contrib disc since the archive.org one is corrupt.  So the binaries
>>>>> and source seem fairly well preserved for future explorers.
>>>> Check again. The contrib image in the 7.4GB rar has the same hash as
>>>> the one on archive.org and elsewhere. I have no idea if the install
>>>> image is 100% correct. Hell, it's possible every image in that archive
>>>> and on archive.org is bad. I just don't know.
>>>>
>>>> So if anybody has any BSD/OS CDs please speak up.
>>> I have CDs of 2.0, 2.1 and 3.0.  I had 1.x, but I can't put my hands
>>> on them right now.  Maybe they were on QIC tape, in which case they're
>>> probably unrecoverable.  I also have source trees for 4.0, 4.1 and the
>>> development version of 5.0 which I used to write the code for FreeBSD.
>>>
>>> What's the legal situation about distributing them?
>>>
>> No one is left to go after you for diing so. Wind river left bsdi support
>> behind years ago....
> My personal opinion on these old operating systems is don't set up a store
> and try make money from it and you are golden.  Don't set up a website and
> say "Get Unix for free here".
>
> It's sort of like dirt where I live.  Technically, you can't move more than
> 5 yards without a permit.  Yet people do it all the time, they just don't
> advertise it.
>
> And no offense to the ancient Unix versions but I'm not sure anyone really
> wants them for anything other than history.  Nor should they.  I'm a SunOS
> guy, huge fan, it's where I learned how to be a kernel guy.  Would I want
> to run that rather than Linux today?  Oh, hell, no.  Everything works on
> Linux, graphics, sound, video, email attachments, so much of that was a
> mess on SunOS and a bigger mess on other systems, including peers of
> SunOS.
>
> If there was value in BSD/OS the lawyers would come after you but there is
> no value other than history.

I wish there was some way we could get the remnants of the Unix(tm) 
companies together for long enough to sign something along the lines of 
the "Statement Regarding Research Unix Editions 8, 9, and 10"

https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/Research/Dan_Cross_v8/

"Statement Regarding Research Unix Editions 8, 9, and 10 Alcatel-Lucent 
USA Inc. (“ALU-USA”), on behalf of itself and Nokia Bell Laboratories 
agrees, to the extent of its ability to do so, that it will not assert 
its copyright rights with respect to any non-commercial copying, 
distribution, performance, display or creation of derivative works of 
Research Unix®1 Editions 8, 9, and 10. The foregoing does not (i) 
transfer ownership of, or relinquish any, intellectual property rights 
(including patent rights) of Nokia Corporation, ALU-USA or any of their 
affiliates, (ii) grant a license to any patent, patent application, or 
trademark of Nokia Corporation, ALU-USA. or any of their affiliates, 
(iii) grant any third-party rights or licenses, or (iv) grant any rights 
for commercial purposes. Neither ALU-USA. nor Nokia Bell Laboratories 
will furnish or provided support for Research Unix Editions 8, 9, and 
10, and make no warranties or representations hereunder, including but 
not limited to any warranty or representation that Research Unix 
Editions 8, 9, and 10 does not infringe any third party intellectual 
property rights or that Research Unix Editions 8, 9, and 10 is fit for 
any particular purpose."

for their various versions of Unix that are no longer in development but 
still have historical interest for the rest of us.

Wesley Parish