[TUHS] Any Interdata war stories?

Jonathan Gray jsg at jsg.id.au
Wed Apr 30 09:27:20 AEST 2025


On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 11:46:19AM -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
> On 4/29/25 11:25 AM, Clem Cole wrote:
> > Yes, that was one of the RTS compilers for the NU machine.  John Romkey
> > may have done it, as he was the primary person behind PCIP, but I can
> > not claim I remember who did the 8086 backend.  IIRC Jack Test did the
> > 68K backend.  The RTS crew had the NU machine and NU bus that went with
> > it.   Very tean project Neat project.  Similar idea, in fact to what CMU
> > was doing with the Intel Mutlibus called the distributed front end (we
> > had started with LSI-11 and cost reduced it to 8086 on a Intel
> > Multibus).  Andy Bechtolsheim would take with him to Stanford and rework
> > with a 68K which became the Stanford Network Terminal - which used the
> > RTS's C compilers.   It's all very mixed up. [ Don't tell me there was
> > not an open source culture back in the old days by the way].
> > 
> > Anyway the MIT RTS foilks made hardware and PCC back ends for the 68K,
> > Z8000 and 8086.  I believe that each had separate assemblers, tjt who
> > sometimes reads this list might know more, as he wrote the 68K
> > assembler.  IIRC they had a common linker which is was rewrite/extension
> > to the original V7 linker or maybe the 4.1 linker.
> > 
> > Anyone with a V7 license could get it.   If you had a PC license you get
> > get the source to Romkey's PCIP.   If you did not a license, you could
> > only get a binary kit.
> 
> I have an image of the "MIT Compiler Tape" with a bunch of different PCC ports from a couple of different institutions.
> 
> On the Stanford side, SUMACC was a hack of the compiler to work with the Macintosh
> I had the source for it at one point, but haven't been able to find it on any of my backups.

in the TUHS archive
Distributions/UCB/4.3BSD/new.tar.gz

contains sumacc.tar.Z which has source


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