[TUHS] End of an era: the last ATC (USENIX Annual Technical Conference)
Will Senn
will.senn at gmail.com
Fri Jul 18 03:08:07 AEST 2025
Learn's great and it's "easy" to get working in SimH. I included it in
my tutorial:
https://decuser.github.io/unix/research-unix/v7/2024/05/23/research-unix-v7-3.2.html
Will
On 7/16/25 16:59, Noel Hunt wrote:
> Seventh Edition Unix came with a program 'learn', written by
> Brian Kernighan, which was a front-end to a group of tutorials
> on 'ed', 'tbl', 'troff' etc.
>
> The 'ed' tutorial was a wonderful introduction to the editor,
> and a model of clarity, as indeed they all were, but that was
> typical of everything written by researchers who were at 1127.
>
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 22:53, Brantley Coile <brantley at coraid.com> wrote:
>
> Behind the glass wall in the basement of the University of Georgia
> graduate studies building, was the wide floor of the computer
> center and behind that was the office of one of my mentors, Bob
> Stearms. As he typed PL/1 into his 3278 terminal--channel
> connected no less--I spied a plain white book sitting on a shelf
> in his book case with an orange title "SOFTWARE TOOLS." I picked
> it up and flipped through it. It was 1980, the first year of my
> marriage.
>
> "What's this?", I asked as I pick up the volume and started
> flipping through it.
>
> "It's from the Unix guys. They wrote a pre-processor for FORTRAN
> and called it Ratfor. Then they wrote a bunch of the Unix programs
> in it."
>
> "Can I borrow it?"
>
> "Sure."
>
> I changed my life. I still use what I learned from it forty-five
> years later. And still very happily married to the bride of my youth.
>
> After Bob passed away, Frieda gave me that volume. It's one of my
> prized possessions.
>
> Forget Unix and C. The biggest research achievement to come out of
> 1127 was a clear understanding of how to program.
>
> Brantley
>
> > On Jul 16, 2025, at 8:09 AM, arnold at skeeve.com wrote:
> >
> > IMHO, the best tutorials on ed are the chapters in "Software Tools"
> > and "Software Tools in Pascal" where Kernighan and Plauger write
> > a basic version of it. I recommend both books highly, despite
> > their age.
> >
> > "Software Tools" literally changed my life. :-)
> >
> > Arnold
> >
> > Cameron Míċeál Tyre via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Ah, rabbit holes. Dangerous things. I went down the ed rabbit
> hole around
> >> a month ago and no sign of me finding my way back out any time
> soon.
> >>
> >> I got obsessed with getting ed running on every device I have
> including my
> >> phones and then the big rabbit hole off that first one was
> learning how to
> >> use it properly and to the fullest of its abilities. That'll
> take a while.
> >>
> >> My library of ed related publications is getting so big its likely
> >> what's blocking the exit to the rabbit hole. On the plus side
> it has
> >> sharpened my typing skills, improved my patience and I I've
> learned to
> >> work out for myself what I've done to cause ed to say ?,
> instead of just
> >> typing h+Enter.
> >>
> >> As rabbit holes go, it's been stimulating so far and I could be
> stuck
> >> in worse places.
> >>
> >> Have a safe one!
> >>
> >> Cameron
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> On 16/07/2025 01:01, Luther Johnson
> <luther.johnson at makerlisp.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just noticed that algorithm and logarithm just have a couple of
> >>> letters transposed from each other. So that's the kind of
> rabbit hole I
> >>> get lost in most days.
> >>>
> >>
>
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