[TUHS] End of an era: the last ATC (USENIX Annual Technical Conference)

Christian Hopps chopps at chopps.org
Sat Jul 19 09:45:24 AEST 2025



> On Jul 18, 2025, at 22:58, Bakul Shah via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org> wrote:
> 
>> And I don't understand the dislike of vim.
> 
> It is more that some of us *prefer* nvi to vim. [I might've used
> vim when it was first posted on Usenet but Braam refused to make
> at least provide an option to make multiple undo/redo behavior
> compatible to nvi. So it goes!]

Agreed! nvi `u` undo/redo with the `.` repeat cmd is what nvi got very right and vim got wrong by comparison IMO. That feature alone had me preferring nvi forever (they both supported split windows :)

I eventually gave up and just started using vim though b/c it was installed by default on Linux systems, which is what the vast majority of customers/companies want to use now.

Thanks,
Chris.

P.S. Actually I had a soft spot in my heart for vim even when I preferred nvi b/c there was a native Amiga OS version, but that’s a topic for some other mailing list. :)


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