[TUHS] End of an era: the last ATC (USENIX Annual Technical Conference)

Christian Hopps chopps at chopps.org
Sun Jul 20 22:24:41 AEST 2025


Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> writes:
>
> I wasn't trying to tell Will he can't use whatever editor he wants, I was
> trying to tell Will I wouldn't tolerate this much back and forth about his
> personal preferences distracting us from shipping product.  My team had
> emacs people and vi people, nobody cared so long as you got your job done.
>
> What we didn't have is editor arguments clogging up our thinking.

To jump in here before everyone poo poos this thread too much. I agree with this sentiment when it's time to get work done.

That said, I've enjoyed this thread b/c I like getting other peoples perspectives, especially from folks that I think have some clue. Sometimes I learn something new or a new perspective and I end up adapting new tools or practices b/c of it -- even now that my beard/hair is grey.

I find these are actually fun conversations to have occasionally -- maybe in a cafe/bar or even on a mailing list. Maybe not everyday or all the time, but sometimes. :)

FWIW for coding/email/organizing/scheduling I now use some franken-setup project called "spacemacs" which is emacs, but the UI of vi, launching much faster, that uses a meta-configuration that makes it simple to enable all those features (and yes I still write lisp when needed but that's almost never to get what I want anymore).

For quick editing I still just type `vi` and use ^Z, even though I also use tmux and long running disconnected remote sessions.

Thanks,
Chris.


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