[TUHS] screen editors, Where/when did TUIs come from

[Jonathan Gray]

INtext Terminal, INed and other ISC products ~ 1979 mentioned in
https://archive.org/details/TNM_Automated_office_communications_-_Interactive_20180306_0001/page/n23/mode/2up

On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 11:40:14AM -0400, Clem Cole wrote:
> Somebody (ISC I >>think<<) inserted some of the code for INed into the ROMs
> of the Perkin-Elmer Fox terminals to provide some assistance (which were
> 6800-based).  I never knew much about it, but it was the system the 68000
> folks (Les Crudele, Nich Trudenick et al) used during core development.  It
> all ran on a PDP-11/70, which was running Interactive's V6 port that their
> group controlled in the back, basically unnoticed.  Les told me that the
> system was pretty responsive, even with the load they put on it of
> editing and text processing, much more responsive than the resources
> Motorola corporate offered them.  This was all important because the 6809
> was the "corporate" project and what would become the 68000 was purely an
> unamed skunkworks project, basically hidden away from the core management
> structure as an experiment/bet that they could do it (a story told
> elsewhere and while UNIX rely on the results, was not part of UNIX's story
> directly other than a PDP-11/70 running UNIX was the system was used to
> create the processor).
> 
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 11:06 AM John R Levine <johnl at taugh.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 17 Jun 2025, arnold at skeeve.com wrote:
> > >>> At Yale we had one called "e" that ran on our early bitmap terminals.
> > >
> > > Wasn't this related (somehow) to what was called the RAND editor?
> >
> > Yes.  The same people went from Yale to RAND and then started Interactive.
> > INed may have used code from the RAND editor, even if not, it was written
> > by the same guy and worked much the same.
> >
> > > I remember using "e" on IS/1, a V6 derivative on the PDP-11, in
> > > the 1980-81 time frame.  I don't know if it was hardwired for a
> > > particular terminal or not.
> >
> > Interactive sold OEM terminals but I don't recall whether the editor also
> > worked on other devices.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Levine, johnl at taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
> > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
> >