[TUHS] Any UNIX With No C In Userland?

[Greg A. Woods]

At Sat, 1 Mar 2025 19:00:03 -0800, Bakul Shah via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org> wrote:
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Any UNIX With No C In Userland?
>
> .... C is a great portable
> assembler but not so great as a high level language.

Unfortunately modern C isn't a a great portable "assembler" any more.

V is probably one of the better new low-level programming languages.
Development of V has hardly stalled -- it's highly active from what I
see on Github.  I personally think V is very easy to learn for C
programmers, with lots of similarities, and it's very easy to translate
C to V too!

Hare is another interesting new compiled systems-level language.

Both are promising "No Undefined Behaviour" -- since of course the main
Sin Of Modern C is it's all-too-abusive reliance on Undefined Behaviour.

Possibly Jai will be in this realm as well.  Hmm.... Nim?  Maybe.


Regarding the question starting this part of the thread:  Any UNIX with
no C In Userland?

Well there was TUNIS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUNIS).

I don't have quick access to my copy of the book about it, but I seem to
recall that there may have been some attempts to be ABI-compatible with
7th Edition Unix, at least on PDP-11.  That Wikipedia article does say:

	Programs that ran under Unix V7 could be run under TUNIS with no
	modification.

But that may have only meant API-compatible.

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