[TUHS] PC/IP

Tom Teixeira tjteixeira at earthlink.net
Sat May 3 23:49:18 AEST 2025


On 5/2/25 11:15 AM, Clem Cole wrote:
> Thank you, Tom, for the definitive answers to much of this.  I 
> remembered that the Z8000 was mixed up in that mess, but it was 
> missing from Al's Trix tape.  Do you know if a Z8000 back end or set 
> of support tools was ever built, and if so, does anyone know if they 
> survived?  It does look like Al has 8086 [Terman compiler].  68K (of a 
> few flavors) and an NS16032 (author's unknown).  One of the tools you 
> mentioned from MIT seems to have survived, although Dennis and I saved 
> the official UNIX Circuit Design System release in the 
> mid-1990s. Warren has had that TUHS archives ever since, but I'm not I 
> ever saw you tools other than things like you 68K assembler, and I 
> guess is was our fiiend Wayne that wrote the linker (which until this 
> thread I did not now).
>
> BTW: Again, it proves how interwoven the people and tech (i.e., open 
> source culture) were in the 1970s; i.e., it's not a new thing.  The 
> PDPs were running the Stanford Circuit Design System (SUDS) and the 
> 11's often at USCD.  The people came and went.   For instance,the 
> former Wayne was a year ahead of me at CMU before he headed to MIT for 
> a Master's and PhD,
>>
>
I'm pretty sure a Z8000 back end was produced because I remember that we 
built at least one Z8000 board. One of the LCS progress reports mentions 
that Zenith had committed to build some Z8000 systems, back when "office 
automation" was a thing. However, I have no idea what happened to the tools.

I don't remember anyone but Chris producing back ends, but it's possible 
someone else did the NS16032. But I don't remember anything else about 
the NS16000 systems.

The tools Chris and others produced in support of the Mead/Conway LSI 
course were also widely distributed, but I'm not sure what the 
mechanism. Since those were completely unencumbered by Unix, there was 
probably less formality, but I expect the MIT license was included.
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