[TUHS] On the unreliability of LLM-based search results (was: Listing of early Unix source code from the Computer History Museum)

Norman Wilson norman at oclsc.org
Tue May 27 02:40:07 AEST 2025


G. Branden Robinson:

  That's why I think Norman has sussed it out accurately.  LLMs are
  fantastic bullshit generators in the Harry G. Frankfurt sense,[1]
  wherein utterances are undertaken neither to enlighten nor to deceive,
  but to construct a simulacrum of plausible discourse.  BSing is a close
  cousin to filibustering, where even plausibility is discarded, often for
  the sake of running out a clock or impeding achievement of consensus.

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That's exactly what I had in mind.

I think I had read Frankfurt's book before I first started
calling LLMs bullshit generators, but I can't remember for
sure.  I don't plan to ask ChatGPT (which still, at least
sometimes, credits me with far greater contributions to Unix
than I have actually made).


Here's an interesting paper I stumbled across last week
which presents the case better than I could:

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10676-024-09775-5

To link this back to actual Unix history (or something much
nearer that), I realized that `bullshit generator' was a
reasonable summary of what LLMs do after also realizing that
an LLM is pretty much just a much-fancier and better-automated
descendant of Mark V Shaney: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_V._Shaney

Norman Wilson
Toronto ON


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