[TUHS] Government-Issue UNIX?

Arnold Robbins via TUHS tuhs at tuhs.org
Sat Oct 11 00:19:30 AEST 2025


HP sounds right. I know 2 of the people who did SecureWare; one of them
grew up down the street from me and is now a Jerusalem-based venture
capitalist. :-)

Arnold

GARY LUCKENBAUGH via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org> wrote:

> There were quite a few secure products in the 80s. There was set of requirements promulgated by the Defense Intelligence Agency (defined by Mitre) for a Compartmented Mode Workstation. In the late 80s IBM, DEC, and HP had CMW offerings along with an Atlanta startup named Secure Ware that built a CMW based on a Unix system that ran on an Apple Mac. I believe it was A/UX. At IBM we licensed the Secure Ware product and had them port it to IBM's AIX. 
>
> Our group in IBM Federal was responsible for the fork of AIX that resulted from the Secure Ware port. We also were responsible for getting the product certified by the DIA. We had many joint meetings with IBM, DEC, HP and the DIA. I was IBM's representative at those meetings. 
>
> I believe HP went on to acquire Secure Ware. I asked Perplexity.AI about that and it blew a fuse. 😆 
>
> Gary Luckenbaugh
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 9, 2025, at 7:58 AM, Douglas McIlroy via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org> wrote:
> > 
> > When Jim Reeds and I were making the IX multilevel-secure Unix
> > (1987-88), an Orange-Book-compliant Unix was being made for the
> > government at BTL's Whippany Lab. There was some communication between
> > the two projects, but different objectives led to significantly
> > different systems.
> > 
> > Did the Whippany product become KSOS, or did DOD end up with two
> > "secure" Unixes?
> > 
> > Doug


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