[TUHS] DECtapes under the UNIX room floor

Warren Toomey via TUHS tuhs at tuhs.org
Wed May 6 15:57:51 AEST 2026


On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 05:26:01AM +0000, Thalia Archibald via TUHS wrote:
> In Pirzada’s 1988 thesis, he mentions some DECtapes that were found under the
> UNIX room floor while he was searching for early distributions. Are these the
> Dennis_Tapes?

Here's what I've got. In Jan 1999 I sent this e-mail to dmr:

    Now, about that V2 DECtape. In the July 1984 issue of ;login: there is a
    Unix trivia quiz.  At the top, it says:
    
            The following quiz was distributed at the Salt Lake City conference
    by Rob Pike... Jim McKie had the best score for an individual (57) and was
    awarded an authenticated 1972 DECtape containing UNIX Version 2.
    
    In 1995, I emailed Jim and asked him what had happened to the tape? He
    replied:
    
            a couple of years ago we sent that dectape along with a bunch of
            others we found under to floor to keith bostic at berkeley who
            had resurrected a dectape drive. i don't remember getting it back.
            i'll enquire.
    
            i loved pdp11's.                  
    
    So I assume that it must have been one of the DECtapes you had Keith read.
    However, somehow it got lost because you haven't mentioned it.              
    
    So: do you guys still have those DECtapes, or does Keith have them?

But earlier, in Sept 1997, Dennis has sent me this e-mail:

    The files here were read from old DECtapes made in the early 1970s.
    Paul Vixie and Keith Bostic unearthed a DECtape drive and
    made it work, we unearthed the tapes.
    
    The tapes were written in either the 'tap' or 'tp' format,
    which are similar in that they have a directory of up to 192
    entries at the start with names and other information including
    the size and tape address of the files.  'tp' was the later
    format, and was in use by November 1973, the date of the 4th edition manual.
    With `tap', the times associated with the files were recorded
    in pre-modern units: sixtieths of a second, from an origin that
    changed.  The first three editions of the manual had BUGS sections
    noting that 32 bits can represent only about 2.5 years in this
    unit, and this implied continuing crises as the time overflowed.
    
    I believe that the change to use seconds for Unix time took place
    along with the change to the C version of the operating system, which
    occurred about the end of the summer of 1973, and also that the change
    from `tap' to `tp' took place at the same time.  (This is consistent
    with the dates of the 3rd and 4th edition manuals).
    
    Thus the dates recorded with the `tp' tapes probably correspond
    reliably to the modification dates of the files at the time
    of saving them (of course, this gives only a upper bound on
    their creation, since they might have been copied or trivially
    touched just before saving them).
    
    Recovering the proper dates for the `tap' tapes is less reliable,
    because there was at least one change of epoch (from 1971 to 1972)
    during the period they could possibly have been produced.
    I believe that the 1972 epoch is most likely the correct one
    for the tapes here.
    
    apl
            Ken's apl program, together with his rendition of
            astro (translated from Morris's Fortran).
            Probably OK dates, 1975-76.
    
    config
            Ken's program for configuring PDP11s.  It told you
            price, maintenance, checked for bus loading.
            Interesting for DEC price lists in 1974.
    
    dmr
            Random stuff from my directory.  Most probable dates: 1972.
            The `paper' directory contains a version
            of the original SOSP Unix paper (haven't compared
            it with the CACM version).
            cgd appears to be an experiment in converting
            Fortran threaded code to machine language,
            using a warmed over version of the earliest C
            code generator.  It's written in NB, not C.
            fd is some fortran programs, in particular a
            polynomial root-finder I found somewhere.
    
            aman is some version of the PDP-11 assembler manual.
            fd is a fortran program for plotting functions
            of 2 variables.
    
            notes1 and notes2 are evidently notes I made for myself
            for a talk on unix.  They are quite interesting.
    
            tty.s is evidently the terminal processing routine for an
            assembly-language version of unix.  note that it handles
            IBM 2741 terminals with two kinds of typeballs
            (938 and correspondence).
    
            crypt.c encrypts using a variant of the Hagelin machine.
    
            pig.b is an interesting artifact:  it is a B program
            that echoes what you type in Pig latin.  (Incidentally,
            there is a translation of this program into C, dated 1978,
            in a subdirectory that still spins on a disk attached to
            the Unix machine where I get my mail.)
    
    dmr2
            the let directory contains drafts of a bunch of letters
            to people who asked about unix in early days.  (lett6
            is to andy tanenbaum).
    
            The let directory contains drafts of a bunch of letters
            to people who asked about unix in early days.  (lett6
            is to andy tanenbaum).
    
            Other bits: restric discusses some early thoughts
            about types in C.  I don't know who it was addressed
            to (perhaps even to myself).  ct is an even briefer
            list about what I though was important.
    
            iosys is a manual for writing system device drivers.
    
    e-pi
            Our programs to compute e and pi to a million places.
            The one for e worked; it took some months on a time-shared
            PDP-11 without memory mapping.
            Incidentally the <SO>J<SI> directory name is correct:
            this sequence printed the greek letter pi on a Teletype
            model 37.  Plan 9 won't let me create this.  It wants
            me to use Unicode!
    
    games
            Ken's work on various games.  Check out chomp/c0.c,
            which has a briefly-existing form of structure
            declaration using parentheses instead of braces.
    
    ken
            check out the values of the AT&T Savings plan in the
            early 70s (plan), and what interested Ken's son (corey/*)
            then.
    
    ken-du
            Here, you can read our wtmp files from 1974 and 1975.
    
    ken-sky
            A bunch of interesting old ken stuff (eg a version of
            the units program from the days when the dollar fetched
            302.7 yen)
    
    last1120c
            The source for a version of C that compiled for the
            PDP-11/20.  It didn't have structures, it didn't have
            #define, and pointers were declared p[].  But look!
            The initialization routine says
    
                    init("float", 2);
                    init("double", 3);
            /*      init("long", 4);  */
                    init("auto", 5);
                    init("extern", 6);
    
    nsys
            If the decoding of the date on the tape is correct (Aug 1973),
            this is the source for the earliest C version of Unix
            likely to be recovered.  `nsys' meant the C version
            rather than the assembly version, and Aug 73 is plausible for
            a running instance of this system.
    
    prestruct-c
            This is approximately the same era as `last1120c,'
            but 6 months later; despite the name, this compiler now
            handles structures.  (The struct keyword
            has displaced `long' as keyword number 4!)  The name of
            the tape indicates that the state of the compiler
            was saved just before converting it to use structures
            inside itself.
    
            The compiler is much less complete--just
            the c??.c files, not the tables for code generation.
    
    s1
            I haven't cracked this yet.
    
    s2
            Is not source, but a dump of (parts of) /bin, /etc,
            /usr/lib, and bits of a few other directories.
            Caution!  The tape uses absolute pathnames,
            and is dangerous to extract unless you want to install
            old PDP-11 binaries.  (tap format).
    
    sys-dsu
            This system didn't come directly from us.  After
            poking around it for a while I found a file containing
            this (in cr.h):
    
            /*****************************************************************
             **                                                             **
             **                U C L A  Data Secure Unix                    **
             **                                                             **
             **                     Copyright 1977                          **
             **                                                             **
             **    Mark Kampe, Charles Kline, Gerald Popek, Evelyn Walton   **
             **                                                             **
             *****************************************************************/
    
            So, it appears that `dsu' is `data-secure unix' and this is a
            record of one of the early security projects!  They must
            have sent it to us.  Might be fun to examine it; I suppose
            we should tell Gerry Popek of its existence.
    
    unix
            This is probably a `boot' tape; it has binary images of
            the system and some raw utility programs for use when booting
            (memory testers, loaders for diagnostics, and the like).

Cheers, Warren


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