[TUHS] troff.org and the old bell-labs.com domain

Greg A. Woods via TUHS tuhs at tuhs.org
Mon May 25 10:36:38 AEST 2026


At Sat, 23 May 2026 11:44:13 -0400, Douglas McIlroy via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org> wrote:
Subject: [TUHS] Re: troff.org and the old bell-labs.com domain
>
> Roughly speaking, Tex cleaned up the architecture but botched the
> aesthetics.

I don't find TeX as one uses it to be "clean" in any aesthetic way,
though I agree its underlying architecture is a thing of beauty.

A mentor of mine strongly preferred PlainTeX (Knuth's own macro package)
over LaTeX, and I found it was indeed quite a bit easier to work with.

Meanwhile though I mostly continued using troff for quite some time,
including publishing a newsletter with 2-column format (using mm).

However at some point in the early 1990's I switched to Lout, which I
think in some ways is the best of both worlds thrown together and then
cleaned up and simplified as much as possible.

	http://jeffreykingston.id.au/lout/

It is reasonably fast and has many/most(?) of the capabilities of troff,
including tables, equations, and pic-like diagram drawing, and of course
works well on Unix and Unix-like systems.  It generates PostScript or
PDF output.

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