[TUHS] A repository with 44 years of Unix evolution gets the MSR '15 Best Data Showcase Award

Mary Ann Horton mah at mhorton.net
Tue May 26 02:46:54 AEST 2015

Is the original SVR4 around somewhere (even if still considered trade 
secret or copyrighted?)

I'm getting ready to have my collection of 9 track magtapes recovered, 
(Sydex sounds very reasonable) and I find I have 5 AT&T SVR4 tapes among 
them (all different, I think, but I won't know until I read them.)  They 
are labeled Proprietary and Copyright, and I claim no special rights to 
them other than as an ex AT&T employee.

Is it worth recovering them?

     Mary Ann

On 05/21/2015 11:04 AM, Clem Cole wrote:
> I never took those kinds of notes.  We certainly talked about it and 
> we used to have know who had what at Locus since all of the majors 
> were our customers and we had to be very, very careful to not cross 
> pollinate.   Sometimes we would do specific work in different offices, 
> just to make the firewall easier to manage.  For instance the Ultrix 
> and Tru64 work we did for DEC, as well as the HP work was done in 
> Boston.  Most of the IBM work was done in the LA office, and Intel 
> work was led in San Diego.
> There was a time when I had the release schedules of DEC, IBM, HP and 
> Sun taped the wall behind my desk, because we had teams delivering 
> things to all 4 of them.
> That said, if you talked to one of the UNIX press of the old days, 
> like the old "UNIXgram/X" folks, you could put together the 
> chronology. However, I don't know that any of that is on line anywhere 
> to search.   But that would be the documentation I would look if I was 
> a lawyer trying to demonstrate who did what in what order.   Some of 
> those folks are still around and writing, I saw something from Timothy 
> Pickering Morgan just yesterday talking about Linux and I see some of 
> the other names pop up in the blogs and journals at different times.
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jacob Ritorto 
> <jacob.ritorto at gmail.com <mailto:jacob.ritorto at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com
>     <mailto:clemc at ccc.com>> wrote:
>         ​ HP/UX is an SVR3 & OSF/1 ancester. Solaris is SVR4.  In fact
>         it was the SVR4 license and deal between Sun and AT&T)​ that
>         forced the whole OSF creation.  One of the "principles" of the
>         OSF was "Fair and Stable" license terms.
>         Which begs a question - since Solaris was SVR4 based and was
>         made freely available via OpenSolaris et al, does that not
>         make SVR4 open?   I'm not a lawyer (nor play one on TV), but
>         it does seem like that sets some sort of precedent.
>     I hope not to hijack the thread, but those are interesting tidbits
>     of info, there, Clem.  Are these strategic license moves
>     chronicled anywhere at the moment?  It'd be interesting to read
>     exactly who sued whom, who asked for permission vs. who begged for
>     forgiveness, etc.
>     thx
>     jake
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