[TUHS] A repository with 44 years of Unix evolution gets the MSR '15 Best Data Showcase Award
Mary Ann Horton
mah at mhorton.net
Tue May 26 02:46:54 AEST 2015
Is the original SVR4 around somewhere (even if still considered trade
secret or copyrighted?)
I'm getting ready to have my collection of 9 track magtapes recovered,
(Sydex sounds very reasonable) and I find I have 5 AT&T SVR4 tapes among
them (all different, I think, but I won't know until I read them.) They
are labeled Proprietary and Copyright, and I claim no special rights to
them other than as an ex AT&T employee.
Is it worth recovering them?
On 05/21/2015 11:04 AM, Clem Cole wrote:
> I never took those kinds of notes. We certainly talked about it and
> we used to have know who had what at Locus since all of the majors
> were our customers and we had to be very, very careful to not cross
> pollinate. Sometimes we would do specific work in different offices,
> just to make the firewall easier to manage. For instance the Ultrix
> and Tru64 work we did for DEC, as well as the HP work was done in
> Boston. Most of the IBM work was done in the LA office, and Intel
> work was led in San Diego.
> There was a time when I had the release schedules of DEC, IBM, HP and
> Sun taped the wall behind my desk, because we had teams delivering
> things to all 4 of them.
> That said, if you talked to one of the UNIX press of the old days,
> like the old "UNIXgram/X" folks, you could put together the
> chronology. However, I don't know that any of that is on line anywhere
> to search. But that would be the documentation I would look if I was
> a lawyer trying to demonstrate who did what in what order. Some of
> those folks are still around and writing, I saw something from Timothy
> Pickering Morgan just yesterday talking about Linux and I see some of
> the other names pop up in the blogs and journals at different times.
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jacob Ritorto
> <jacob.ritorto at gmail.com <mailto:jacob.ritorto at gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com
> <mailto:clemc at ccc.com>> wrote:
> HP/UX is an SVR3 & OSF/1 ancester. Solaris is SVR4. In fact
> it was the SVR4 license and deal between Sun and AT&T) that
> forced the whole OSF creation. One of the "principles" of the
> OSF was "Fair and Stable" license terms.
> Which begs a question - since Solaris was SVR4 based and was
> made freely available via OpenSolaris et al, does that not
> make SVR4 open? I'm not a lawyer (nor play one on TV), but
> it does seem like that sets some sort of precedent.
> I hope not to hijack the thread, but those are interesting tidbits
> of info, there, Clem. Are these strategic license moves
> chronicled anywhere at the moment? It'd be interesting to read
> exactly who sued whom, who asked for permission vs. who begged for
> forgiveness, etc.
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