[TUHS] Oracle euthanizes Solaris 12, expunging it from roadmap

[Arthur Krewat]

Have you used Solaris 11, especially up to 11.3? I find Linux and it's 
recently evolving service and network configuration methods to be a bit 
of a pain. The biggest example of this was the loss of ifconfig from the 
minimal install of Redhat/Centos recently. Manually installing nettools 
just to get it back, when every other UNIX still has it is exasperating.

If you're a Linux-only house, and even then are up-to-date and use only 
one or two distros of Linux, I get it. But if, like me, you administer 
multiple distros, versions, and then start moving across AIX, HP/UX and 
Solaris, it's another glaring example of "we're going it alone" (again).

For what it's worth, I've been administering a PeopleSoft environment 
built entirely on Solaris x86 (half of it virtualized) for quite a few 
years, and it's been trouble-free. All the other Linux distros I 
administer have had their own idiosyncrasies and bugs. Not to mention 
the glaring security holes that have come out in the past 2 years. 
Conversely, I've also administered some SFHA clusters on Redhat and 
they've been flawless too.

But I digress. This is not supposed to be a "bash Linux" thread :)


On 1/19/2017 11:39 AM, Tim Bradshaw wrote:
> Well, they are probably reacting to what their customers want which, in my experience working at a fairly typical customer up to a couple of years ago, is indeed Linux.  That's kind of sad, but Linux, much though I'd like to hate it, is unfortunately both a significantly more pleasant experience as a user & administrator, and a lot easier to hire people for.  It's 20 years too late for Solaris to have a future.
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>> On 19 Jan 2017, at 14:40, Arthur Krewat <krewat at kilonet.net> wrote:
>>
>> Let's hope they do the right thing and release Solaris into the wild again. ZFS in particular.
>>
>> Personally, I think they are making a huge mistake. What are they going to do, move to Linux? Oh, right... the "cloud" will be Linux.
>>
>> Blech.
>>
>>> On 1/19/2017 3:49 AM, Wesley Parish wrote:
>>> I suppose that set of rumours will lead to people shifting to the FOSS versions
>>> of Solaris and SPARC.
>>>
>>> Wesley Parish
>>>
>>> Quoting Kay Parker      <kayparker at mailite.com>:
>>>
>>>> guess it is the beginning of the end of Solaris and the Sparc CPU:
>>>> 'Rumors have been circulating since late last year that Oracle was
>>>> planning to kill development of the Solaris operating system, with
>>>> major
>>>> layoffs coming to the operating system's development team. Others
>>>> speculated that future versions of the Unix platform Oracle acquired
>>>> with Sun Microsystems would be designed for the cloud and built for the
>>>> Intel platform only and that the SPARC processor line would meet its
>>>> demise. The good news, based on a recently released Oracle roadmap for
>>>> the SPARC platform, is that both Solaris and SPARC appear to have a
>>>> future.
>>>>
>>>> The bad news is that the next major version of Solaris—Solaris 12—
>>>> has
>>>> apparently been canceled, as it has disappeared from the roadmap.
>>>> Instead, it's been replaced with "Solaris 11.next"—and that version
>>>> is
>>>> apparently the only update planned for the operating system through
>>>> 2021.
>>>>
>>>> With its on-premises software and hardware sales in decline, Oracle has
>>>> been undergoing a major reorganization over the past two years as it
>>>> attempts to pivot toward the cloud. Those changes led to a major speed
>>>> bump in the development cycle for Java Enterprise Edition, a slowdown
>>>> significant enough that it spurred something of a Java community
>>>> revolt.
>>>> Oracle later announced a new roadmap for Java EE that recalibrated
>>>> expectations, focusing on cloud services features for the next version
>>>> of the software platform. '
>>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/oracle-sort-of-confirms-demise-of-solaris-12-effort/
>>>> -- 
>>>>   Kay Parker
>>>>   kayparker at mailite.com
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>
>>> "I have supposed that he who buys a Method means to learn it." - Ferdinand Sor,
>>> Method for Guitar
>>>
>>> "A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." -- Samuel Goldwyn
>>>
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