[TUHS] cat -v and other complaints

[Clem cole]

Truth is I think IBM beat Sun on getting loadable modules for the kernel out first.  But I was counting the versions that people really looked at which is why I give Linux credit.   

It makes sense they modeled on SunOS btw but the fact is the Linux version is what folks like *BSD and macOS modeled after later.  

Btw you are 100% right - As for launchd I agree/no doubt -  but I’d already given up on MacOS being able to be admin’ed like a Unix box.  I can pretty much use it via iterm2 as a user like one and if mostly works as I expect (which I do appreciate).  

Linux is seductive enough to make think I should be able to admin it like I have for the last 40 years and it then bites me when I least expect it.   

Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite. 

> On Aug 29, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 08:34:05AM +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, Clem Cole wrote:
>>> That said, I give the Linux folks great credit for the addition of modules
>>> was huge and it took BSD and the other UNIX systems a few years really
>>> pick up that idea in the same way (yes Solaris, Tru64 and eventually HPUX
>>> etc.. had something too but again - my comment about being generally
>>> available applies).
>> 
>> Wasn't SunOS first with dynamic kernel modules, or is my memory worse than I
>> thought?  Linux may have been around at the time, but we never used in the
>> shop until much later (Red Hat, nicknamed Dead Rat).
> 
> Yep.  And Linux has loadable modules because I posted the SunOS 4.x man
> pages for the SunOS loadable modules to the kernel list.  Proving once
> again that the open source guys aren't always the greatest at coming up
> with the ideas but once you show them that it can be done, it gets done
> quickly.  I think they had a prototype working in a week.
> 
>> Never mind "systemd"; I'm having enough trouble coming to grips with
>> "launchd" on the Mac...  Gimme /etc/inetd.conf any time.
> 
> Amen, brother.